A perfect time for an Ubuntu commercial

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dotmatrix

Jun 09, 2016
9:36 AM EDT
I don't use Ubuntu myself, but I know several non-techies that happily hum along with it.

I think Canonical could win a significant number of GNU/Linux converts if they produced a commercial with a byline of something like:

"Ubuntu GNU/Linux, the OS that will never automatically change your configuration or software choices."
seatex

Jun 09, 2016
10:05 AM EDT
Or how about, "Linux, The OS that doesn't collect your data for the NSA"?
dotmatrix

Jun 09, 2016
10:22 AM EDT
Canonical, like any other company is subject to government control. If the government issued a secret order to Canonical for all the IP addresses and other metadata of users contacting its servers, they would comply and no one would know about it.

There is no OS or software vendor who can nor should be expected to provide for your anonymity.

You can download the source code of all the projects you use and then maintain the code yourself to avoid leaving tracks all over the web and its various networks... but that's about it. To believe that any organization or vendor is not providing information to the government is a mistake.

This is not the same statement as, "vendor xyz is 'in bed with' the government." Rather, there is simply no way for anyone to know explicitly that information sharing is not happening. So, logically it must be assumed that all software vendors share all available information.

Therefore, it's safe to assume that all communications providers and all software vendors are operating under a national security letter:

NSL, obligatory link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter

**** I understand this comment may start an argument... so I will not respond further on this thread on the NSA subject.
seatex

Jun 09, 2016
10:29 AM EDT
I do agree that we don't know, and would not be informed if it was happening. But, Linux is not controlled by a single company. Still, the NSA finds a way to get what they want when they want it.

So, point taken.
CFWhitman

Jun 09, 2016
4:09 PM EDT
Still, you can't share what you don't collect. The information that a lot of distributions would have available is nothing compared to what Microsoft collects from its users. Of course, ISPs are another thing. They tend to have a lot of information available about you if they care to aggregate it, which the government can ask them to do (for the moment this still, at least theoretically, requires a warrant).
jdixon

Jun 09, 2016
5:42 PM EDT
> (for the moment this still, at least theoretically, requires a warrant).

Yes, but if it's a claimed counter-terrorism investigation, that's given in secret by a court which is pretty much a rubber stamp, and they can prevent the ISP from even notifying you of the matter.
CFWhitman

Jun 10, 2016
8:58 AM EDT
Yes, that type of thing is part of the reason I used the word, 'theoretically.'

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