Google must ignore.
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| nmset Nov 29, 2014 4:41 AM EDT |
I doubt Google would even care to read the whole of this foolish EU resolution. Just because they can't compete, the EU representatives change the rules and even dare order requests to a light-speed company to slow down; that's revolting enough for me to spit my 2c. Ok, it's done, have a nice day. |
| seatex Nov 29, 2014 7:42 AM EDT |
A lot of those arrogant socialist nobility-class Sir-Brits, God love 'em, still think the US is a colony. |
| linux4567 Nov 29, 2014 10:19 AM EDT |
If Google was a European company you would see exactly the same reaction from the US congress. Apart from that I welcome anything that makes it harder for Google to monopolize and control the internet. |
| me1010 Nov 29, 2014 11:00 AM EDT |
@linux4567: Unless you use FF with Google Disconnect, you are supporting the Google-borg through your use of lxer. Note the term of service: Quoting: 2. By providing content to our site, you have granted Web Market. (the parent company of LXer) unrestricted use of that material, including your username. Your E-mail address, full name, and other personal information will never be revealed to other entities by LXer. We reserve the right to modify, reproduce and distribute materials posted to our services, both internally and for commercial use. http://lxer.com/module/pages/v/12/ Web Market == Google Ads. == Google profit After installing Google Disconnect, I quickly realized that Google actually does control everything I run my own email servers. It's not too hard, and I don't need to give everything directly to Google... however... http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/google-has-most-of-my-email-because-it-has-all-of-yours The USA should follow the EU, and actually break up Google. That would probably increase operating costs for many forums, but perhaps it might be better to have a small fee to join a forum anyway --- cut down dramatically on forum spamming. |
| bob Nov 29, 2014 11:19 AM EDT |
me1010: I've been keeping LXer funded by putting up a Google ad at the top of the LXer page. This ad only brings in about 10% of what it takes to fund the operation of LXer. The rest comes out of my pocket as my personal commitment to the promotion of the FOSS ideals. I have no specific ties to Google, especially since the income from that source is so tiny, and I wouldn't mind dropping Google totally if I had a better way to cover the LXer costs. If anyone has a better suggestion for a replacement, I am all open to ideas. Bob Whitinger Publisher, LXer |
| me1010 Nov 29, 2014 11:30 AM EDT |
@bob: My post wasn't meant as a dig to LXer. It's just a point that Google services and sending data to Google is nearly unavoidable at this point in the on-line arena. I would gladly pay [and do for email] a few dollars a month to keep some of my favorite sites going... but I don't condemn those who make their lives easier through the use of Google services. Perhaps an option to pay a certain fee to opt out of ad data to Google? But that would certainly make for a much more complicated site design. So, I usually surf with Google-disconnect and Ad Block running -- I usually disable it for the sites I care about -- like LXer. |
| nmset Nov 29, 2014 3:36 PM EDT |
If Google didn't exist, finding information on the internet would be quite hellish. Other search engines do exist, but at any time, there will be a leading company, and their efficiency is somehow less than Google. There wouldn't have been been Android and we would have been stuck with iOS, brrr... ! There wouldn't have been Google Translations, an invaluable tool for many, specially children learning a foreign language. There wouldn't have been... ... So I don't care too much about their ad business, I want them to continue. But I don't give them personal data (calendar, contacts, mail...) that are stored on my tiny tiny home OwnCloud server. OK, they track my searches, websites I visit (I use Chromium)... I don't like that but it's a price to pay for what they give. Let's remember Google does not compel anyone to use its services. If we break up Google, we would continue with Microsoft, Oracle... the monster oil company , the monster cotton company... the next monster search engine... all these get us closer to communism, very bad, even the Russians have dropped it, and it's just a name in the Chinese Communist Party. |
| linux4567 Nov 29, 2014 5:06 PM EDT |
@me1010: I'm way ahead of you, I have been using FF and SM with adblocker (and additional custom privacy filters) for the last 6 years or so. That said this is exactly why I'm saying that Google is controlling (almost) the whole internet and that's why I welcome any initiative to curtail their dominant position. @nmset: nonsense, Google was a good search engine 10 years ago, these days their algorithms are so horrible that most of the time other search engines deliver better results. Anyway, the Google search engine is a side show these days, Google is primarily controlling the internet why embedded scripts in 90% of all web pages, the Android OS, the Chrome browser and so on. |
| BernardSwiss Nov 29, 2014 7:29 PM EDT |
Quoting: I've been keeping LXer funded by putting up a Google ad at the top of the LXer page. OK. Since that's the case, I've checked that Ghostery isn't blocking the Amazon Affiliates and Google Adsense web-bugs. (Double-click is still verbotten, though). |
| mrider Nov 29, 2014 8:35 PM EDT |
Funny, I've had the site white-listed in ABP pretty much since I landed here. It never occurred to me to look at Ghostery. This site is white-listed there as well now, and now I see an Amazon Affiliates link I've never seen before. 1) I apologize. 2) I'll be sure to use the link from now on. |
| Ridcully Nov 29, 2014 10:23 PM EDT |
But seatex, I assumed the USA was, is, and ALWAYS HAD BEEN a British colony.......hence Sir William Gates KBE, knight of the British Empire for "services to the Crown"......It's just that a majority of US citizens haven't yet realised they are entitled to a British passport.......Oh, and don't forget to stand when God Save the Queen is played. Sorry, but I couldn't resist it. |
| nmset Nov 30, 2014 5:07 AM EDT |
>embedded scripts in 90% of all web pages What drives web site designers to embed Google's scripts ? It's their choice, they are not obliged in any way. |
| seatex Nov 30, 2014 10:43 PM EDT |
Ridcully - No apology needed. I will never stand to "God Save the Queen". I'm allergic to royalty and honoring them could bring on a seizure. Of course, not honoring them could bring on a different kind of seizure - even with our royalty in the US. ;-) |
| JaseP Dec 01, 2014 3:12 AM EDT |
Quoting: ...hence Sir William Gates KBE, knight of the British Empire for "services to the Crown"... I believe that is just "William Gates, KBE," not "Sir William Gates, KBE." Those who are not subjects of the United Kingdom do not get the "Sir," appellation. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_British_Empire#Sty... |
| Ridcully Dec 01, 2014 4:29 AM EDT |
@seatex and JaseP.........of course, of course.......its just that I have an evil sense of humour and the comments by seatex were just too delicious to miss. Curiously enough, seatex, the monarchy has an integral part to play in the Australian Constitution and because of the convolutions of its drafting, the Monarchy has an incredibly important stabilizing effect on Australia and its operations. Unless you experience the situation, you would never really understand, and I am NOT being either patronizing nor bending down, so to speak. I would be very sorry to lose the Royal situation in Australia.......and unless either of you have any other Qs, I will leave it at that.....We aint a political site. (Oh, and yes, I have actually spliced the main brace with the Governor General....TRULY - no fibs....now that is something else again.) |
| gus3 Dec 01, 2014 1:48 PM EDT |
I believe Ridcully is alluding to The Dismissal. |
| Ridcully Dec 01, 2014 6:05 PM EDT |
Hi Gus3.......nope, I wasn't thinking of that in particular, although the GG in question was Sir John Kerr. No, splicing the main brace is where the sovereign (or his/her representative) orders a free issue of "alcoholic beverage" to the crew of a ship because of a job well done, or simply because they want to be "nice to the crew". I was an officer in HMAS Melbourne, when Sir John Kerr travelled in the ship from Sydney to Melbourne and he ordered "splice the main brace".......and was in the wardroom at the time, of course, so, yes, I met him and conversed. But the actual "splicing of the main brace" comes from the days of sailing ships......I'll let you look it up.......quite interesting, and very, very difficult.......the rope of the main brace was about 5 inches diameter........and that's a thick rope. |
| gus3 Dec 02, 2014 2:22 PM EDT |
I was referring specifically to this bit:
Quoting:the Monarchy has an incredibly important stabilizing effect on Australia and its operations.As for the thickness of a ship's ropes, I do remember seeing the broken nose my grandfather sported after one snapped in two and smacked him in the face. The fact that he got away with "only" a broken nose was a testament to the charmed life he lived. |
| DiBosco Dec 03, 2014 6:08 AM EDT |
Seatex, you show a staggering lack of understanding if you think the British nobility are socialist. And if you think the UK views you as a colony you are paranoid beyond belief. It's a lazy, outdated generalisation. If anything, the cynical true socialists amongst us are fed up of being America's lapdog. The UK these days approaches nothing like being a socialist country and it's the EU - which is a far more socialist organisation - that pushes these bills through. If you knew the slightest thing about British politics, you'd know that the nobility want out of Europe and to have nothing to do with it and are as far away from socialism as George Dubbyah. This is the same EU that fought to pull Microsoft down a peg or two over IE. I assume you didn't like that either? |
| Ridcully Dec 03, 2014 7:04 AM EDT |
Hi DiBosco......without intending to give offence, no more politics, please......it goes against the TOS for this site. Gus3, given the damage a snapping rope can do, you are quite right......your grandfather had a charmed life.I should imagine in later years, he dined out on that story with a fair amount of pride......and I'd give him the right to do so. I have sailed a yacht on the Swan River in WA, and managed to turn it over........and shivered for the rest of the race......I don't think I am a good "yachtie". Anyway, this is getting WAY off the thread context.......so I'll bow out and leave it to all you good computer people to debate the topic further. |
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