The obvious answer is...
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| Author | Content |
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| jdixon Aug 09, 2014 10:33 PM EDT |
The obvious answer is that 4.2 doesn't have the NSA backdoor installed. |
| Koriel Aug 10, 2014 12:35 AM EDT |
Yeh the Skype upgrade caused major problems for myself as all my linux machines were running ALSA only the 4.3 upgrade forces you to install PA which is just shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii*t and thats being polite about it spent hours just trying to get some semblance of crackle free audio. Had to chuck out one of my sound cards as it was just no-go on PA (Turtle Beach Santa Cruz), works fine on ALSA massive screeching sound on PA, its a known bug which no one is fixing due to its age. Out of my 3 linux machines I only have one that PA works on reliably that's not a great success rate. Anyways im hunting around for a decent skype alternative tried Jitsi but wasnt impressed with its handling of audio settings if it implemented automatic mixer level handling like skype then I might consider it but having to tailor everything manually was a pain. Tried going back to 4.2 only to find it wouldn't connect and all this just to keep the NSA happy. I am keeping my eye on Tox https://tox.im/ which looks interesting. |
| JaseP Aug 10, 2014 3:49 AM EDT |
I dumped Skype when I found out about the whole turning your machine into a super-node thing... That was before MS bought 'em. MS buying them just made me more glad I dumped them. Google Hangouts uses less hardware resources,... And, if I'm going to get spied on anyway (Hi! NSA!!!),... I might as well use that fact to get served up with ads I prefer, as opposed to just spammed to death with junk ads. |
| jdixon Aug 10, 2014 7:52 AM EDT |
> only the 4.3 upgrade forces you to install PA Well, that explains why 4.3 can't see any of my audio devices on my Slackware box here at the house. Oh well, time to removepkg skype*. It was a useful program at one time. But knowing Microsoft, it was olny a matter of time till they broke it. |
| seatex Aug 10, 2014 11:20 AM EDT |
Makes you wonder how much faster and more efficient things would run without the NSA and MS surveillance requirements. As for myself, I've never used Skype and never will. But then, I'm still using an 8-year old C2D Gateway laptop as my primary, and it does NOT have a built-in webcam. |
| Bob_Robertson Aug 11, 2014 8:28 AM EDT |
Yep, I've had problem with audio since installing PA. Skype 4.2 allowed me to pick the audio device (USB headset), and so on. Now, no such thing, and the USB headset just doesn't work. So Skype removed itself, in my opinion. |
| Steven_Rosenber Aug 12, 2014 12:47 AM EDT |
I hate to be contrary, but on my PulseAudio-running Fedora system, the PulseAudio-aware 4.3 solved all of the audio issues I had with Skype before now. |
| Bob_Robertson Aug 12, 2014 8:21 AM EDT |
> I hate to be contrary (shouting in the voice of Gerard Butler) THIS IS THE INTERNET! |
| gus3 Aug 12, 2014 12:19 PM EDT |
/me throws Bob_Robertson into /dev/null |
| Bob_Robertson Aug 12, 2014 2:07 PM EDT |
(crawling out of well) As an aside, I recently heard of "pavucontrol", which might allow me to overcome the agonies of using Pulse Audio. I'll try to remember to post if/when I try it. |
| jdixon Aug 12, 2014 5:28 PM EDT |
Oh, and thanks to whoever fixed the title I forgot to enter. :) |
| Steven_Rosenber Aug 13, 2014 2:36 PM EDT |
Quoting:As an aside, I recently heard of "pavucontrol", which might allow me to overcome the agonies of using Pulse Audio. I'll try to remember to post if/when I try it. You absolutely need pavucontrol, especially in Xfce (and Xfce distros other than Xubuntu, which deals with PulseAudio volume better than any other Xfce-running system, from what I can see). I'm not sure how well GNOME 3 handles PulseAudio, but I hope it's better than Xfce, where pavucontrol is the only thing standing between civilization and barbarism. |
| jdixon Aug 13, 2014 2:59 PM EDT |
> As an aside, I recently heard of "pavucontrol", which might allow me to overcome the agonies of using Pulse Audio. Pulse Audio is available for Slackware via Slackbuilds.org, but it's not part of the standard install. And I'm not willing to install it just to use Skype. I can live without it. |
| penguinist Aug 13, 2014 4:29 PM EDT |
It's a shame that Microsoft has sold its users out to the NSA. I for one will not use Skype going forward. I'll keep my eyes open for an end-to-end-secure implementation like the original Skype was designed to be. |
| DrGeoffrey Aug 13, 2014 6:26 PM EDT |
Quoting:It's a shame that Microsoft has sold its users out to the NSA. But not a surprise. |
| BernardSwiss Aug 13, 2014 7:15 PM EDT |
Quoting: It's a shame that Microsoft has sold its users out to the NSA. Quoting: But not a surprise. I guess it's past time for upgrading my tinfoil cap to proper copper-mesh lining in all my head-wear... ;-) Though at this point, I should at least be able to find suitable pre-made haberdashery, rather than my own ham-fisted DIY :-P |
| CFWhitman Aug 14, 2014 8:10 AM EDT |
Now you're making me think of the new Weird Al Yankovic song, "Foil." :-) |
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| tmx Aug 18, 2014 11:57 AM EDT |
NSA access for Skype been there a long time away. When they arrested Kim Dotcom they had his entire Skype conversation history. I don't even know why people use Skype when there are so much arguably better alternatives now. |
| jdixon Aug 18, 2014 1:12 PM EDT |
> NSA access for Skype been there a long time away Yes, but it wasn't built-in. They had to work at it. |
| Bob_Robertson Aug 18, 2014 2:12 PM EDT |
They had to strong-arm an American company into buying Skype, so the code could be re-written to use only NSA-approved servers. No more of this anarchy of "ad-hoc super-nodes". |
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