He's being paid to develop for other OSes now, 'nuff said...
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| JaseP Aug 12, 2013 11:17 AM EDT |
So, ... He's being paid to develop for other OSes now, 'nuff said... I, on the other hand have never experienced the "trouble" he refers to,... Quite the opposite. Stuff didn't work in Windows... It did in Linux, out of the box... Only on exotic hardware had I ever found trouble... The usual solution was to just wait until it was supported... |
| Bob_Robertson Aug 12, 2013 12:33 PM EDT |
And in reflection to JaseP's experience, once supported hardware tends to stay supported. So while finding new Windows drivers for older hardware can be very problematic, the "just works" part of Linux only improves over time. |
| Steven_Rosenber Aug 12, 2013 5:01 PM EDT |
There's a "bell curve" for Linux support. Eventually old hardware loses its mojo when it comes to driver support.. |
| JaseP Aug 12, 2013 5:20 PM EDT |
Quoting: There's a "bell curve" for Linux support. Eventually old hardware loses its mojo when it comes to driver support.. And I've found that usually occurs when the hardware is ready to "give up the ghost," anyway... |
| Steven_Rosenber Aug 12, 2013 5:27 PM EDT |
Quoting:And I've found that usually occurs when the hardware is ready to "give up the ghost," anyway... That is true. |
| skelband Aug 12, 2013 7:25 PM EDT |
On the other hand, although code may become unsupported, open source will always be available for someone to resurrect in the future if the need arises. You might need technical expertise to do that, it is an option. Once closed source software becomes unsupported, it is effectively dead. |
| r_a_trip Aug 13, 2013 4:54 AM EDT |
My experience is the opposite. I have no trouble managing my Linux desktop installations (they practically manage themselves). When I have to manage Windows, it invariably starts driving me up the wall sooner than later. When it comes to installation, updates or adding functionality, Windows most of the time falls short. (I've played around a little with OS X, but it didn't strike me as computing walhalla. If anything, the pressure of Apple's invisible hand was palpable in the interface). At work I have to use Windows, but it is made to fit and managed by Atos, so I don't encounter any of the regular pain with Windows there. That tricks me every once in a while to think that Windows isn't that bad. That is until someone asks me nicely to help them with their Windows problems. When that happens I'm quickly reminded of the rigidity and clunkyness of the Windows operating system and these times make me appreciate my privilege of using Linux at home that much more. As an aside, does anybody else think Mr. Koryavov isn't being very smart by directly badmouthing the product of his former employer? A product he in large part has helped to build? |
| CFWhitman Aug 13, 2013 8:44 AM EDT |
My experience is similar to r_a_trip's. When I have to use Windows for any length of time it starts to become annoying and exasperating. If you get it set up for a specific set of tasks and don't vary the routine it can be OK, but don't throw it any curves. One of the things I don't like about Windows seems even worse with Mac OS X, and that is the fact that the operating system publisher has too much influence on its day to day operation. I don't like living with artificial restrictions on my operating system. Of course I realize that this is something that a technical user is going to object to and that a non-technical user isn't as likely to be bothered by. |
| caitlyn Aug 14, 2013 1:28 AM EDT |
If someone paid me lots and bunches more than I can earn doing *nix I'd jump to another OS. Right now reaching my life goals means taking care of some financial and personal obligations and putting away something for the future. If I can do that better and faster, sure, I'll be an OS mercenary. The funny thing is that Linux (and UNIX) jobs pay a lot better than any other sort for systems architects, engineers and administrators. So.. with no compelling reason to go elsewhere I can't see why I'd switch. A good Linux distro does everything I need and the advantages of FOSS, to me, would still keep me running Linux if all else was equal. Oh, and yeah, on my systems Linux just works, which seems to be the main selling point the quoted article has for Windows and OSX. BTW, in my experience OSX does just work. Windows, not so much. Of course, OSX only works on very overpriced Apple hardware. |
| jdixon Aug 14, 2013 6:38 AM EDT |
> Of course, OSX only works on very overpriced Apple hardware. Legally, yes. It's my understanding that there are some excellent cheap Hackinosh choices. Supposedly the Mini-9 I own is one, but I've never been interested in trying. |
| hkwint Aug 14, 2013 9:14 AM EDT |
Hey, can I share with you peepz the joke about "Windows logging being to hard to understand?" Found this out when trying to debug a Win7- profile which wouldn't boot normally anymore, and wanting to find out which services that profile start after login. Here's the joke: Under Windows XP / Vista, you could do boot logging with the event viewer. But the resulting log files where very hard for a mere non-Microsoft employee to parse, usually you were advised to ask MS to look at your logs. Uhu, like that's going to happen. Anyway. Do you know how they solved the problem of "log files to hard to understand" in Windows 7? They removed that logging facility! There, problem gone. |
| Bob_Robertson Aug 14, 2013 10:25 AM EDT |
"There, problem gone." We destroyed the village in order to save it. |
| BernardSwiss Aug 14, 2013 8:14 PM EDT |
@hkwint IIs this any help? Boot Times - Monitor with Event Viewer http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/174750-boot-times-monit... It looks like it might just be an issue of knowing how to get at the info? (I am going to have to try this with my sister's computer). |
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