More lightweight than WP?

Story: Lightweight Alternatives to WordPressTotal Replies: 14
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notbob

Jun 08, 2013
9:49 PM EDT
I always thought WordPress WAS the "lightweight" alternative. ;)
Steven_Rosenber

Jun 08, 2013
10:55 PM EDT
What's heavier?
notbob

Jun 09, 2013
9:28 AM EDT
Danged if I know. I know Drupal is completely undecipherable to my feeble brain. Most of those CMS thingies are beyond my attention span. Every time I try and dig into one, my head starts hurting and I give up. Easier to jes code out a webpage, which I'm also loathe to do, which no doubt explains why I've been glued to a computer keyboard for 25 yrs and still don't have a blog. ;)
gus3

Jun 09, 2013
11:28 AM EDT
Compared to the messes that most CM systems are, "vi" and "nano" are pretty lightweight.
notbob

Jun 09, 2013
12:42 PM EDT
I'm kind of a pragmatist, so prefer emacs. I can use vi, but refuse to. Stupidest app ever created.

"vi is the heart of evil" --notbob ;)
kikinovak

Jun 09, 2013
1:19 PM EDT
Vim is a great tool if you're a ten-finger-typer. Folks usually don't get the seemingly awkward shortcuts, but they're for fast typers, that's all. I've been using Vim pretty much every day since I discovered it back in 2001. I'm using it for pretty much everything from system configuration to shell scripting and PHP coding. My favourite GNU/Linux tool.
notbob

Jun 09, 2013
2:26 PM EDT
> Vim is a great tool if you're a ten-finger-typer.

I've known how to touch type since I was 13. Unfortunately, that doesn't prevent me from making typing mistakes. The pragmatic part is, computers have a backspace key to instantly remove a mistake .....unless you are using vi/vim! Then, you gotta change modes. After eliminating same said mistake, you gotta change modes back to continue inserting text. What moron conceived this extra-steps concept and why do so many ppl willingly embrace it?

Don't tell me. I don't really care. ;)
gus3

Jun 09, 2013
5:52 PM EDT
My vim, in Insert mode, works just like any generic word processor w.r.t. the Backspace key, even across line breaks.
jdixon

Jun 09, 2013
7:00 PM EDT
My default version of vi (elvis) does too, though the display doesn't always seem to track the changes properly.
caitlyn

Jun 09, 2013
9:59 PM EDT
Drupal is incredibly powerful and it really isn't all that hard to get going. Using all the advanced features and getting everything just so takes time and has a learning curve, but I was able to get my first Drupal 7 site up and looking decent in a few hours last year. The more I use it the more I realize that once you understand the logic behind it then it isn't hard to learn whatever you want. Clue: it's just PHP. If you can read the PHP code you have a huge advantage, though that's hardly a requirement.
notbob

Jun 09, 2013
11:23 PM EDT
> My vim, in Insert mode, works just like any generic word processor w.r.t. the Backspace key....

I always wondered if vim might do jes that. I was jes so disgusted with vi, I never bothered to discover if variants improved the breed.

Oh well, I know emacs, so not gonna change now. The main reason I like it is cuz it's a great CLI file mgr, too. File mgr, editor, email, irc, nntp, etc. I don't use all that stuff, only the file mgr and editor, but that's enough.
CFWhitman

Jun 10, 2013
9:31 AM EDT
The thing about vi that I never cared for is having to always be aware of which mode you were in. If I really got used to it, perhaps it would no longer bother me. I've never used a version of vi where backspace didn't work in edit mode. That really would be awkward. I first used vi back in 1997 I think, but it seems like Red Hat had vim and Slackware had elvis or something like that.
notbob

Jun 10, 2013
11:02 AM EDT
Edit mode is not insert mode, so ya' gotta change modes again. Dumbest concept in the history of computers.

Slack comes with both elvis and vim.
jdixon

Jun 10, 2013
1:34 PM EDT
> Slack comes with both elvis and vim.

Yes, but elvis is what's linked to by vi. You can change that, of course.
telanoc

Jun 10, 2013
4:47 PM EDT
@jdixon: That's step 1.

Step 2 is to use it and get '.' out of the path for everyone (not just root). After that, Slackware is just about perfect. :)

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