More lightweight than WP?
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notbob Jun 08, 2013 9:49 PM EDT |
I always thought WordPress WAS the "lightweight" alternative. ;) |
Steven_Rosenber Jun 08, 2013 10:55 PM EDT |
What's heavier? |
notbob Jun 09, 2013 9:28 AM EDT |
Danged if I know. I know Drupal is completely undecipherable to my feeble brain. Most of those CMS thingies are beyond my attention span. Every time I try and dig into one, my head starts hurting and I give up. Easier to jes code out a webpage, which I'm also loathe to do, which no doubt explains why I've been glued to a computer keyboard for 25 yrs and still don't have a blog. ;) |
gus3 Jun 09, 2013 11:28 AM EDT |
Compared to the messes that most CM systems are, "vi" and "nano" are pretty lightweight. |
notbob Jun 09, 2013 12:42 PM EDT |
I'm kind of a pragmatist, so prefer emacs. I can use vi, but refuse to. Stupidest app ever created. "vi is the heart of evil" --notbob ;) |
kikinovak Jun 09, 2013 1:19 PM EDT |
Vim is a great tool if you're a ten-finger-typer. Folks usually don't get the seemingly awkward shortcuts, but they're for fast typers, that's all. I've been using Vim pretty much every day since I discovered it back in 2001. I'm using it for pretty much everything from system configuration to shell scripting and PHP coding. My favourite GNU/Linux tool. |
notbob Jun 09, 2013 2:26 PM EDT |
> Vim is a great tool if you're a ten-finger-typer. I've known how to touch type since I was 13. Unfortunately, that doesn't prevent me from making typing mistakes. The pragmatic part is, computers have a backspace key to instantly remove a mistake .....unless you are using vi/vim! Then, you gotta change modes. After eliminating same said mistake, you gotta change modes back to continue inserting text. What moron conceived this extra-steps concept and why do so many ppl willingly embrace it? Don't tell me. I don't really care. ;) |
gus3 Jun 09, 2013 5:52 PM EDT |
My vim, in Insert mode, works just like any generic word processor w.r.t. the Backspace key, even across line breaks. |
jdixon Jun 09, 2013 7:00 PM EDT |
My default version of vi (elvis) does too, though the display doesn't always seem to track the changes properly. |
caitlyn Jun 09, 2013 9:59 PM EDT |
Drupal is incredibly powerful and it really isn't all that hard to get going. Using all the advanced features and getting everything just so takes time and has a learning curve, but I was able to get my first Drupal 7 site up and looking decent in a few hours last year. The more I use it the more I realize that once you understand the logic behind it then it isn't hard to learn whatever you want. Clue: it's just PHP. If you can read the PHP code you have a huge advantage, though that's hardly a requirement. |
notbob Jun 09, 2013 11:23 PM EDT |
> My vim, in Insert mode, works just like any generic word processor w.r.t. the Backspace key.... I always wondered if vim might do jes that. I was jes so disgusted with vi, I never bothered to discover if variants improved the breed. Oh well, I know emacs, so not gonna change now. The main reason I like it is cuz it's a great CLI file mgr, too. File mgr, editor, email, irc, nntp, etc. I don't use all that stuff, only the file mgr and editor, but that's enough. |
CFWhitman Jun 10, 2013 9:31 AM EDT |
The thing about vi that I never cared for is having to always be aware of which mode you were in. If I really got used to it, perhaps it would no longer bother me. I've never used a version of vi where backspace didn't work in edit mode. That really would be awkward. I first used vi back in 1997 I think, but it seems like Red Hat had vim and Slackware had elvis or something like that. |
notbob Jun 10, 2013 11:02 AM EDT |
Edit mode is not insert mode, so ya' gotta change modes again. Dumbest concept in the history of computers. Slack comes with both elvis and vim. |
jdixon Jun 10, 2013 1:34 PM EDT |
> Slack comes with both elvis and vim. Yes, but elvis is what's linked to by vi. You can change that, of course. |
telanoc Jun 10, 2013 4:47 PM EDT |
@jdixon: That's step 1. Step 2 is to use it and get '.' out of the path for everyone (not just root). After that, Slackware is just about perfect. :) |
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