Could be interesting
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| Ridcully Apr 14, 2013 9:18 PM EDT |
The Trinity project was and still is running in this sort of direction for simplicity and speed, as far as I can make out, but building on and updating the old KDE3.5 code. A cut down KDE4 running at high speed makes a lot of sense and might even remove the need for the Trinity project. I am also delighted that this is coming out of my preferred OS, openSUSE. As a personal example, the first thing I do when I install a new OS version with my preferred KDE4 is turn off all desktop effects....and anything else that I know of that can damp down speed. I also think the decision to "omit unless required" items such as the Nepomuk and Akonadi data bases is an excellent idea. (They sprang to mind even before I read the article in full). A simpler faster KDE4 would be a delightful experience.....This is definitely a "Watch this space" as far as I am concerned. |
| Francy Apr 14, 2013 10:20 PM EDT |
@Ridcully On first view, is this not <more or less> the same as what PCLinuxOS is doing with their KDE-Minime version ?? And no, it will not make the Trinity project go away, as this (TDE) is very different than a lightweight KDE. Just my opinion, as I have both on my hardware(s). My personal preference is going to the TDE project, for very old hardware. Even LXDE is more < hungry > than TDE ( on my old junk ) ymmv |
| jazz Apr 14, 2013 10:25 PM EDT |
The problem with KDE is it is running in 201MB of memory, while Trinity is running in 55MB of memory. They have a long way to go. Last week, there was this story posted on lxer.com: http://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/a-memory-comparison-of... |
| Ridcully Apr 14, 2013 11:20 PM EDT |
One of the nicest things about this site is that you throw a slice of bread onto the water and get a whole loaf back in return. It was just an "idle comment", but got some solid stuff back. @Francy.....I haven't even heard of the KDE-Minime version on PCLinuxOS, simply because I don't use that OS and I am a rusted on user of openSUSE. I guess it's a failing but I am a supporter of the Lord Vetinari family motto which runs: "Si non Confectus, non Reficiat"; and I don't tend to look at much else. Yeah....it's a serious failing, but I remain content. Thanks for letting me know. I did say "might remove the need for Trinity", not "would remove the need for Trinity"....I tend to keep tabs on the Trinity DE, but so far haven't played with it to any extent. @Jazz.....thanks for that article......quite an eyeopener as regards that final plot of memory usage. Thanks. |
| Francy Apr 14, 2013 11:42 PM EDT |
@Ridcully No, it's not a failing, it's wise. Too many OSes on your comp ( or in the eye) tend to lead to " wasted" time. And as far as openSUSE is concerned, I keep tabs on it in Virtualbox. I was tempted a few times, but.... |
| Ridcully Apr 15, 2013 6:09 AM EDT |
@Francy........I'm already suspicious.....you're being nice ! LOL. But thankyou. I find there is enough going on in the openSUSE world and KDE4 to keep me more than happy and testing things out. I have a friend who tries anything and everything out.....and accuses me of being a Luddite due to my attachment to one OS and its foibles. Each to their own.....but he changes his OS almost as often as the months pass. Not my cup of tea. |
| jazz Apr 15, 2013 7:02 AM EDT |
@Ridcully... You're welcome. I think the "lightweight" discussion is heating up. In today's lxer.com news we also have a KDE developer about the memory issue: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/04/what-makes-a-l... I expect more news to come from KDE camp. |
| Ridcully Apr 15, 2013 7:28 AM EDT |
@Jazz...interesting article and thankyou. To me, though, I require speed, simplicity and and some flexibility in setting the DE up in the way I like it. KDE3.5 had that ability in spades, which is why I keep an eye on Trinity. KDE4 in the folder view is more or less like KDE3.5, but includes lotsa stuff I don't want and never will use.....Hence my discarding of as much as I can when I am setting it up.. I've tried Xfce, but despite its speed and simplicity, I could not get it to accept the icons of a folder view in KDE4....now, that may be different in later versions of Xfce. Gnome never appealed. It's why I think a seriously "stripped down KDE4" could be a delight to use......familiarity, speed and simplicity are overwhelmingly good sales points. Like I said at the start, "watch this space" - especially because it is tied to openSUSE..... |
| jazz Apr 15, 2013 7:44 AM EDT |
@Ridcully... I'm also a Trinity user, it is a lightweight desktop environment by today's standards. It is lighter than XFCE! |
| Ridcully Apr 15, 2013 8:12 AM EDT |
@Jazz.....yeah, But I'm "spoilt". ...I keep on hoping openSUSE will offer Trinity as an option.....Point is, I really do love the openSUSE OS and its YaST abilities. I shall retreat inside my Neanderthal cave. I did try Trinity at one point and got overwhelmed by the almost endless/infinite options in the start up menu......and after a 10 minute session of frustration, dumped it. Perhaps it has changed a little. |
| Francy Apr 15, 2013 9:11 AM EDT |
@Ridcully
you wrote: I keep on hoping openSUSE will offer Trinity as an option http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Op... You plain asked for it ! :-) :-) |
| Ridcully Apr 15, 2013 9:52 PM EDT |
@Francy..........yes and thankyou......BUT, not quite what I meant. When you are loading an openSUSE system, one of the installation screens gives you a choice of DE's......Gnome, KDE4, and others.........and I keep hoping one of those "others" will eventually land display in the installation choice area. It's why light weight KDE4 is so appealing as far as I am concerned because it will be a supported DE by openSUSE and will be a choice at installation. The site you referred me to is a Trinity site and while I have no doubt it is good, for a very serious play with as little mucking around as possible for me, I'd prefer to be offered the DE by openSUSE itself. But thanks. |
| Francy Apr 15, 2013 10:07 PM EDT |
Ridcully
I understand and also agree with you.
Mucking around , as you call it, is fine if you have plenty of time.
Not every one has that time.
And I think it will be some time before it's going to be an official installation choice............if ever ! In the mean time, as you said, we bookmark the lightweight-KDE4. Be well. |
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