Open source militants install Linux on Congressional PC

Story: Aligning Linux Distributions with Presidential HopefulsTotal Replies: 33
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henke54

Sep 27, 2012
5:32 AM EDT
Nick Farrell wrote:The US Congress is up in arms after the provisional wing of the open source movement broke into a congressman's computer and installed Linux.

At the risk of being labelled a terrorist organisation, some open sources organised a Watergate style break in of the offices of Michael Grimm [no really], a Republican who represents a district in New York covering Staten Island and parts of Brooklyn. Three windows were broken at the offices, which were not fitted with a security alarm, on Saturday night but nothing was taken.

The burglars just installed Linux on the hard-drive of the server running his campaign. Grimm moaned that the terrorists had wiped the hard-drive because the party which thinks it is a pretty neat idea to open windows on planes thinks that you have wiped the hard-drive if you install Linux on a server.
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/28902-open-source-militant...
John Leyden wrote:Vandals break into congressman's office, install Linux on PCs
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/26/vandals_install_linu...
vagabondo

Sep 27, 2012
6:53 AM EDT
Just like Grimm, you have got this wrong. The stories you reference are about Grimm's incompetent allegations.

This is a local report: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/09/rep_micha...

Fettoosh

Sep 27, 2012
10:34 AM EDT
I can imagine how this might have happened.

A staffer was looking into Linux using a live CD but forgot to remove it after shutting down late at night.

Another staffer next morning, probably incompetent Windows user, powered up and the first thing s/he saw was "Install Linux" icon. S/He must have thought that was one of the frequent MS security update and decided to better do it right away to keep the Congressman secrets safe.

The congressman is an ex-FBI agent and should have known better, at least he should have waited to investigate the facts before shouting his mouth off. No wonder why the Congress's approval/favorability rating is in the low teens.

henke54

Sep 27, 2012
10:42 AM EDT
@vagabondo : yep , you are right :
Quoting:But a law enforcement source said it appears that a campaign staffer wiped the hard drives accidentally after mistakenly inserting a Linux system disc into a Windows machine.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/teenager-arrested-vandal...

it is even getting 'hilarious' ... when you(Grimm) are probed from FBI, blame it on 'the linux-ninja's' ... lol... :
Quoting:Avery Gerena, 16, told authorities he was with a 14-year-old pal Saturday night on Hylan Boulevard when the younger boy suggested smashing the windows of what they believed was an empty car dealership, a criminal complaint said. “I took a big rock and threw it through the window,” said Gerena, according to the complaint. “We went back and I saw the banner that said it was Michael Grimm’s campaign office.”
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/staten_island/nd_bust_in_...

http://politicker.com/2012/09/michael-grimms-opponent-blasts...
JaseP

Sep 27, 2012
3:58 PM EDT
Was the glass in the windows broken inwards or outwards???

That's the tell...
BernardSwiss

Sep 27, 2012
7:07 PM EDT
And since the good congressman is under investigation for misappropriation of campaign funds... combined with the revelation that one of his own staffers "accidentally" installed Linux on the computer, this of course raises possibilities for an entirely different interpretation of events...

(man, am I getting cynical in my old age)
DrGeoffrey

Sep 27, 2012
8:25 PM EDT
Quoting:man, am I getting cynical in my old age


“No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up.” - Lily Tomlin
BernardSwiss

Sep 27, 2012
8:58 PM EDT
Yeah, Lily Tomlin was a great broad -- smart, principled, and very, very funny.

Too bad she never ran for president -- she'd be a better choice than Americans are going to offered in the next election.
jdixon

Sep 27, 2012
9:55 PM EDT
> ...this of course raises possibilities for an entirely different interpretation of events...

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Bob_Robertson

Sep 28, 2012
1:48 PM EDT
> Was the glass in the windows broken inwards or outwards???

Who cares? Now the glazier has work replacing the window, he'll use the extra money to buy stuff, which will provide employment and ripple out through the economy, boosting "aggregate demand"!

Are you sure that it wasn't Krugman or Bernanke throwing the rock?
jdixon

Sep 28, 2012
2:04 PM EDT
> Are you sure that it wasn't Krugman or Bernanke throwing the rock?

No, no, no. You have to hire someone to throw the rock (preferably a unionized government worker) to get the full multiplier effect.
Koriel

Sep 28, 2012
4:04 PM EDT
@jdixon

Im afraid under union regulations it requires two persons, one to aim the rock the other to throw it.

One person doing both jobs would constitute demarcation and I would have no choice but to consult my shop steward regarding an all out strike if such a state of affairs were to continue.
Bob_Robertson

Sep 28, 2012
4:38 PM EDT
> One person doing both jobs would constitute demarcation

Right. Technological unemployment.
jdixon

Sep 28, 2012
4:58 PM EDT
I only wish our comments were as joking as we make them sound. There's too much truth in there.
caitlyn

Sep 29, 2012
4:28 PM EDT
Actually, I think there is too much political ideology here masquerading as humor.
HoTMetaL

Sep 29, 2012
6:22 PM EDT
Thank you Caitlyn for stating the obvious.
jdixon

Sep 29, 2012
10:24 PM EDT
> I think there is too much political ideology here masquerading as humor.

Well, it's either funny or it;s not. If you think it's not because of political affiliation, the problem may be with you and not the humor.

Or it may not be funny. That's up to the reader to decide.

But let's take the posts in reverse order, shall we? Koriel's statement is merely a slight exaggeration of existing union rules that I've encountered half a dozen times or more in my life, and could probably find a dozen ready examples of if I searched. My statement is merely the repetition of the oft stated positions that the government knows how to spend money better than individuals do and that such government spending is good for the economy, both of which I thought you agreed with. And Bob is merely extrapolating Krugman's expected position on the matter from dozens of his articles on the subject. Bernanke's position on the matter is less certain, I'll admit.

The only one that's remotely political is mine. The other two are at best only moderate exaggerations of factual situations. Union rules are what they are, and are supposedly not political in nature. Krugman is an economist, not a politician, and his economic positions are well known, and again supposedly not based on politics. Ditto for Bernanke. And since mine merely notes a rather mainstream economic position, currently being practiced at all levels of government in most countries around the world, I didn't see the harm in it. If Scott disagrees, he's welcome to delete it, of course.

Caitlyn, as you've demonstrated several times, you think any discussion of economics which doesn't agree with yours is political. It's not. It's economics. The two aren't the same, and discussion of economics and economic theories is not banned by the TOS. Whether it should be or not is a matter you'll have to take up with the management.

And again, if Scott disagrees, he's welcome to delete my posts. But until the discussion of economics is banned in the TOS, such "humor" is fair game.

Of course, if your position is that unions, union rules, Krugman's and Bernanke's positions, and various economic theories are explicitly political in nature and explicitly support one and only one political position then your argument is at least internally consistent. Except for the last, I doubt you're trying to claim that however.
Koriel

Sep 30, 2012
1:51 PM EDT
My statements certainly were humour, being a product of 1970's Britain i was taking things as they were back then and then taking them to the extremes.

Don't worry though a lot of people don't appreciate my humour, its a burden I must bear.
tuxchick

Sep 30, 2012
4:14 PM EDT
It's not funny until someone gets hit with a pie.
jdixon

Sep 30, 2012
4:17 PM EDT
> It's not funny until someone gets hit with a pie.

It that's what it takes to get Caityln to appreciate the humor of an opposing viewpoint, I'll volunteer.
cr

Sep 30, 2012
9:00 PM EDT
Raspberry pie? As long as it doesn't have a use-case, it's covered under the 2nd Amendment, the right to keep bare ARMs.
tuxchick

Sep 30, 2012
9:58 PM EDT
Quoting:Raspberry pie? As long as it doesn't have a use-case, it's covered under the 2nd Amendment, the right to keep bare ARMs.


Masterful! Huzzah! cr wins!
tracyanne

Sep 30, 2012
10:51 PM EDT
I like to keep my ARMs bare on sunny days, and when the weather's warm.
Bob_Robertson

Oct 01, 2012
9:48 AM EDT
Here I thought Bastiat's "Broken Windows Fallacy" was such a well-known economic principle that no one could confuse it for modern politics.

I mean really, it's a -broken-windows- story, both the office window and an instance of Microsoft Windows. How much more "On Topic" could I possibly be?????

Now I'm afraid that if I mention Nero actually setting the fire in Rome in order to rebuilt it to his own specifications, it will be taken as a political rant against the prevailing power structure. ....of 100 AD?

number6x

Oct 01, 2012
10:20 AM EDT
@Bob,

You anti-nerists are always distorting the truth! Always spreading false rumors about Emporer Nero. He may have been cruel, but it was only because he loved the Roman people so much. I've even heard some anti-Nerists claim that Nero played a fiddle while Rome burned.

Well, I'm here to set the record straight. The fiddle wasn't invented yet, so he could not have been playing one! It was actually Mrs. O'leary's cow playing a cithara while the city burned for seven nights.

I don't believe the cow was responsible for any broken windows though.
jdixon

Oct 01, 2012
12:54 PM EDT
> Here I thought Bastiat's "Broken Windows Fallacy" was such a well-known economic principle that no one could confuse it for modern politics.

So did I, Bob, so did I. I thought the same thing about Keynes' economic theories about government spending. Obviously we were wrong.
Scott_Ruecker

Oct 02, 2012
7:42 PM EDT
I do not see anything that would be blatantly crossing the TOS myself. Disagreeing is disagreeing but not inherently a TOS violation..unless we all start cursing at each other which I do not anticipate..;-)

jdixon

Oct 02, 2012
10:14 PM EDT
Thanks for the feedback, Scott.
cr

Oct 02, 2012
11:28 PM EDT
Quoting: unless we all start cursing at each other which I do not anticipate..;-)
We can use raspberries, right? :-P
Bob_Robertson

Oct 03, 2012
10:09 AM EDT
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits!

How's that for cursing? No cussing, however, which merely demonstrates a lack of vocabulary.

Anyway, I think I figured it out. I said "Bernanke", Bernanke is a government employee, governments involve politics, therefore it could have been political.

I'm also only 3 hops away from Kevin Bacon.

I consider it impossible NOT to make "political" comments if such tortured logic trails must be traversed in order to avoid it. I recommend some thicker skin.
jdixon

Oct 03, 2012
10:41 AM EDT
> We can use raspberries, right? :-P

Only if you include cream. :)

Hmm, a raspberry and whipped cream pie. That might be worth getting hit with, as long as I could keep it afterwards.

> Bernanke is a government employee,

Not technically. He works for the Federal Reserve, which is one of those "quasi- government agencies".

I was going to excerpt from the Wikipedia article on the matter, but it gets too long, so I recommend people who are interested take a look at it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System

The actual nature, responsibilities, and powers of the Federal Reserve are an extremely interesting and entertaining subject, but not really appropriate for discussion here.

But that's why I felt the need to point out that he was an economist and not a politician in my commentary above. I was the one who explicitly mentioned government employees, but I only did that because government spending is an such a fundamental part of Keynesian theory.
Bob_Robertson

Oct 03, 2012
1:29 PM EDT
> Not technically. He works for the Federal Reserve, which is one of those "quasi- government agencies".

But appointed by the President, and the Fed was created by an act of treas^H^H^H^H^HCongress.

While the Fed's status as "private profits at public expense" may be technically true, as its existence is as a govt-created monopoly and cartel, and The Bernanke has his job at Presidential suffrage, I don't think it's all that much of a stretch to say Govt Employee.

To call The Bernanke an economist is to insult economists.
jdixon

Oct 03, 2012
5:33 PM EDT
> ...as its existence is as a govt-created monopoly and cartel, and The Bernanke has his job at Presidential suffrage, I don't think it's all that much of a stretch to say Govt Employee.

The best way to determine that for certain would be to see who signs his paycheck, and I don't honestly know who that is.
gus3

Oct 03, 2012
5:53 PM EDT
Probably the Comptroller of Some or Another Dept.

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