Couple of things they could do.....
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| helios Jul 19, 2012 8:39 AM EDT |
Nautilus has evolved into a pretty good file manager. Used to be, I considered Nautilus nothing more than a file viewer but it has come along nicely. For me, the epitome of file managers was Konq back in the 3.5 days. Almost two years ago, a 12 year old girl called me and wanted to talk about how to do something in Nautilus. She said that she liked to move files with the right click context menu but the only options were to copy or move them to the Desktop or the Home folder. She wanted to know why the other sub folders were not listed. I explained, "there's a script for that" and told her how to do it. She called back almost immediately and complained that she had to drill down into the context menu to do it and why couldn't it be there in the first right click. That's a good question. I also told her that she could drag and drop her files into the left hand panel where the sub folders were located and she said yes, but it did not support multiple files. Myself, I don't use this feature as it takes steadier hands and better eyesight than I have. She made a good point. Why should you have to install an extension to access the home subfolders. It doesn't seem to be much of a effort or leap to include them individually instead of just offering the home folder to do so. Ikey Doherty is working with us on a remodel of the Solus distro for our Reglue distro. He doesn't seem to think it's a problem in doing this. I just wonder if it was simply lazy coding or if it really is that difficult to do. Either way, I'm glad to see it will get done on some level. The little girl had it right. Just wondering out loud why uber-smart software writers didn't ask the same questions. |
| caitlyn Jul 19, 2012 11:55 AM EDT |
Other file managers do offer this sort of functionality so there is no reason Nautilus can't. |
| Fettoosh Jul 19, 2012 12:54 PM EDT |
Ken, You mentioned in a different thread that you are testing out KDE 4. If you haven't found out yet, I think you will be very pleased with it over all. It is very stable, robust, and fast. It is feature complete, many new things like multiple different interferences like classic desktop, Netbook, and Active Plasma interfaces. Classic & Netbook interfaces are switch-able on the fly without the user having to reboot or re-login and depending on the hardware at the time. It also has Activities, which is a new concept that might be intriguing to many of the kids you are helping. For file management, you have not one, but two. Konqueror and Dolphin are both great and have whatever options a kid might imagine [ I doubt it. :-) ] I think the right click context menu in Dolphin is extensive and I believe it can be modified to add option to the default ones. |
| helios Jul 19, 2012 1:24 PM EDT |
deleted due to posting in wrong thread. |
| helios Jul 19, 2012 1:31 PM EDT |
same thing |
| helios Jul 19, 2012 1:40 PM EDT |
OK, I got it straightened out now. Friggin morphine and hydrocodone.....sheesh I am really enjoying my rediscovery of KDE. I am a freak when it comes to theming and I can burn away an entire afternoon just tweaking things to my liking. I like shiny bling, dancing ponies and sparklinig rainbows. I know that with a couple clicks I can install new color schemes and window decorations (metacity for gnome fans) but I haven't discovered how to do so in styles. Oxygen is ok but it doesn't have the configuration ability that many of my favorite ones do. I just don't know how to install them. I ran into my favorite style in 3.5 and got all excited about it....I just need to install it and get it to show up in the configurator. http://tinyurl.com/6ndpq4x |
| Fettoosh Jul 19, 2012 2:43 PM EDT |
When you click on download, the browser displays the contents. Select and right click to copy. Open a new file using Kate and paste. Save file and name it Helios-Theme some where (Desktop folder view or where ever) Go to "System Settings" => (Under Common Appearance and Behavior section, click on) "Application Appearance" then click on "Colors" under left pane, click on "Import Scheme" button in left pane, browser to and select or double click new file. The new theme will be activated. I just installed it and it looks really nice and I might use it myself. Thanks |
| helios Jul 19, 2012 4:31 PM EDT |
See that's where I am getting confused. In the Manager, on the left, the top icon says "Styles". Then under that it says "color themes" or something of that nature. I'm not on that computer right now. I was thinking they were different entities all together as many of the color themes were downloadable as text, saved in kedit then imported through that specific tool. "Styles" does not have any import tool or any way to install it. Maybe I am just confused but, well, h3!!....I'm just confused. |
| Fettoosh Jul 19, 2012 11:25 PM EDT |
Quoting:I'm just confused. Ken, It is sort of confusing, but technically, it is correct. "Styles" basically describe the window properties and the looks of its widgets and gadgets. "Colors" specifies the colours of various regions of a window, its borders, shadows, icons, etc. Basically, you you can have the same Style dressed with different colour themes. Or you can have multiple different styles but dressed by the same colour theme. It seems the link you specified has a color scheme only. |
| helios Jul 20, 2012 3:02 AM EDT |
So my question remains, when you find a "style" like Oxygen or Polyester" (those are defaults) and you want to install it, how do you do so. Sorry if I seem dense but this has bugged me for a while now. |
| JaseP Jul 20, 2012 9:35 AM EDT |
Ken, She absolutely can drag and drop multiple files. She only has to hold down the control key to highlight, or de-highlight, multiple files. Additionally, she can also add a new tab for when she wants to drop files, and (with a little effort) even add a button to the toolbar to open a new tab... And, don't forget that there are Nautilus plugins available to add features ... |
| Fettoosh Jul 20, 2012 10:29 AM EDT |
Quoting:you want to install it, how do you do so Sorry Ken, I wasn't clear about that. Styles come in different forms and dependent on the developer. There are canned styles that can be downloaded and activated using the following steps "System Setting" => [Under Workspace Appearance and Behavior section], click "Work Space Appearance", then click on "Desktop Theme" in left pane. The right pane will be refreshed listing the currently available styles. In the lower right corner of the right pane view, you will see "Get New Themes..." button. Click to see the available canned styles, which can be ordered by four different categories. Now before you say "Why the heck they put it under Workspaces?", :-). Actually there is a good reason. Like I said above, KDE 4 has multiple different interfaces that users can switch to anyone on the fly without having to reboot or re-login and dependent on the hardware being used at the time. So consequently, window styles are dependent on the interface (it is called Workspace) and each interface has its own set of styles. Besides the canned styles, there are many others that are developed by others and consequently the installation procedure depends on the developer of a specific style. The easiest and most friendly to install come as .deb or rpm packages, but most, which are still in active development, come in gz/bz format with instruction on how to compile and install. If you are lucky, some come as a set of files that they just need to be copied to a specific location. I hope that was helpful and clarifies the issue. |
| Fettoosh Jul 20, 2012 10:37 AM EDT |
Quoting: And, don't forget that there are Nautilus plugins available to add features ... @JaseP, You must have missed the part Ken mentioned in his first comment cited below. That was couple years ago and he was dealing with a very smart kid. Quoting:I explained, "there's a script for that" and told her how to do it. She called back almost immediately and complained that she had to drill down into the context menu to do it and why couldn't it be there in the first right click. |
| helios Jul 20, 2012 2:40 PM EDT |
Thanks Fettoosh, that explains everything then....just seems to me a bit odd that there isn't a set way but then again, that could in itself be restrictive to the artist/creator. Thanks for removiing a splinter that's been bugging me for years. |
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