linux for human beings
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| Author | Content |
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| kennethh May 24, 2012 8:59 PM EDT |
As someone who initially & rightfully disliked Unity I understand the sentiment that still floating out there. For any regular end user Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is going to be hip to the hop! I've had an off and on relationship with ubuntu but 12.04 is a nice rock solid distro and Unity is not all that bad once you apt-get remove and disable a bunch of stuff. Where once it used 500mb of mem/ram I've got it down to 250, which is still high in my opinion but the integration of applications has me hooked... Yes, Mint stood to gain but in the end the choice is gnome3 or Unity--whichever you decide to use and customize to your liking is up to you. That is unless you stick with gnome2 or test out lxde, xfce, razor-qt or jwm/pcmanfm. My view: Ubuntu -- Linux for Human Beings & Mint is for that still angry, missing gnome2 crowd. They'll be back. |
| tracyanne May 24, 2012 9:17 PM EDT |
So long as you are happy. |
| montezuma May 24, 2012 10:18 PM EDT |
Whatever floats your boat. I use cinnamon which is based on gnome3 and is just a pleasure to use. in fact I find it superior to Gnome 2 and miles better than Unity. But then that is just my opinion and desktop preference is very personal. |
| caitlyn May 24, 2012 11:06 PM EDT |
My complaint about Ubuntu are that regressions and bugs don't get fixed. Mint developers often fix Ubuntu bugs first. I find that ridiculous. To me Unity is just a sideshow. It's a desktop choice. To claim the Ubuntu 12.04 is rock solid (it isn't on my hardware) and that Mint is just for angry people is nonsense. Of course, I run neither Ubuntu nor Mint and I'm happy with my choice. |
| tracyanne May 24, 2012 11:14 PM EDT |
I must be an angry person, I use Linux Mint KDE |
| caitlyn May 24, 2012 11:16 PM EDT |
Wow, tracyanne. Just reading that comment I could practically feel the anger seething through my screen... LOL. OK, maybe not :) |
| tracyanne May 24, 2012 11:20 PM EDT |
Peels the pixels off your monitor, does it? |
| Fettoosh May 24, 2012 11:31 PM EDT |
Quoting:Peels the pixels off your monitor, does it? Not mine, they are used to my anger. :-) |
| caitlyn May 24, 2012 11:33 PM EDT |
I like your brand of anger, tracyanne. It makes me laugh. |
| BernardSwiss May 24, 2012 11:34 PM EDT |
And I have one box running Ubuntu (10.04 LTS/Lucid Lynx, so not Unity, yet) and one running Mint (9 LTS/Isadora). I guess that makes me schizophrenic? (And I agree with Caitlyn about the regressions and bugs that don't get fixed). |
| tuxchick May 24, 2012 11:50 PM EDT |
I am so enraged my screen is hallucinating. Look, bluebirds! |
| caitlyn May 24, 2012 11:52 PM EDT |
@BernardSwiss: Thanks for the supportive comment. While I don't particularly care for Unity I don't hate it either. I think the strength of Linux is the fact that we do have choices and I simply make a different choice. Why people get so worked up over the default desktop choice or which side of a window the button is placed on has always been beyond me. The last Ubuntu release that truly "just worked" for me was Edgy Eft. I keep trying and I keep being disappointed. The printer driver issue I wrote about two years ago at http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2010/04/ubuntu-is-a-poor-standa... is still NOT fixed in Ubuntu. If you go to the driver developer's website he warns Ubuntu users not to use the packages provided with the distro. Other distros have no such problem and haven't had for years. If Fedora or SUSE can get it right why can't Ubuntu? |
| tracyanne May 25, 2012 12:03 AM EDT |
Seriously, I would now be running KUbuntu 12.04, I downloaded it as soon as the final release was announced, and installed it to a USB stick. I then tested it on my main machine from the USB stick and it looked great, I even went to the trouble of uninstalling software I don't want and installing other software i do want, set up Multiple monitors and 9 virtual desktops with different background images etc. I looked great, I was quite impressed, so I went ahead and installed it. The install went fine no issues. However, when I rebooted, it simply failed to recognise my mouse and keyboard, a major stopper, I think. After several attempts to install using boot to desktop and install without booting to desktop, I installed something else. Luckily I had Linux Mint 12 KDE on another USB stick so I installed that. It works perfectly, and with the KDE PPA I have KDE 2.8.3. So now I'm just going to wait for Linux Mint 13 KDE, and stop being impatient. |
| nikkels May 25, 2012 2:59 AM EDT |
>>>>It works perfectly, and with the KDE PPA I have KDE 2.8.3. Gee, talk about being old-fashioned ( smile-grin ) |
| gus3 May 25, 2012 6:42 AM EDT |
Wow, if I run Slackware, does that mean I'm catatonic? |
| jacog May 25, 2012 6:55 AM EDT |
gus3 - nope, but possibly means you will be turning into a green giant soon and smash up the neighbourhood. Better call the FBI to put you on a watchlist. |
| jdixon May 25, 2012 8:01 AM EDT |
> Better call the FBI to put you on a watchlist. Well, I can't speak for gus3, but I'm pretty sure I'm already on most of the watch lists. Running Slackware is just the icing on the cake. |
| jacog May 25, 2012 8:51 AM EDT |
mmmm, cake |
| CFWhitman May 25, 2012 9:51 AM EDT |
Well, currently on my two primary machines I have Ubuntu Studio 12.04. That just seems to end up being the easiest way to run a 64 bit distribution with a low latency kernel on this hardware (I might very well be running 64 Studio if they updated it to a kernel that recognized all the hardware on my 2 year old laptop). I also ran Linux Mint Debian with the Liquorix low latency kernel for a while. Ubuntu Studio, of course, defaults to XFce, and I am leaving it that way for the moment (though I have run IceWM and Fluxbox with previous versions of Ubuntu Studio on this laptop). I do also have a Slackware machine running. Does that make me a danger to my local community? |
| DrGeoffrey May 25, 2012 1:04 PM EDT |
With all due respect to the Slackers, I'm quite certain that in the M$ world we would all be classified as threats. What greater honor can they give? |
| tuxchick May 25, 2012 1:13 PM EDT |
I want to be a threat! Look, my scary face: =8-( |
| skelband May 25, 2012 1:25 PM EDT |
@tc: Sorry, that just looks like Dilbert to me :D |
| tuxchick May 25, 2012 3:02 PM EDT |
Darn it. |
| Bob_Robertson May 25, 2012 3:08 PM EDT |
Phil, lord of Heck. |
| tracyanne May 25, 2012 5:33 PM EDT |
Wow did I write KDE 2.8.3., I really am as silly as a wheel. |
| telanoc May 25, 2012 6:20 PM EDT |
@tc and skelband: It looks like Beaker from The Muppet Show to me. |
| skelband May 25, 2012 6:22 PM EDT |
@telanoc: Hah! Me too! |
| caitlyn May 27, 2012 1:24 AM EDT |
Quoting:Well, I can't speak for gus3, but I'm pretty sure I'm already on most of the watch lists. Running Slackware is just the icing on the cake.LOL. I expect I am too. Heck, I not only have a couple of Slackware derivatives running right now (SalixOS, Absolute Linux) but a Russian distribution (ROSA 2012 Marathon) and, of course, our Israeli-American one under development. I must be some sort of Zionist Commie subversive or something, LOL. |
| PsynoKhi0 May 28, 2012 1:09 PM EDT |
I gave the new Mint a try, liked the clean desktop - but Banshee and Tomboy (or anything mono for that matter) are show stoppers for me. Looking forward to the XFCE flavor though. |
| tracyanne May 28, 2012 5:55 PM EDT |
Banshee and Tomboy are me too applications in my opinion. Mono C# + MonoDevelop, on the other hand is a nice Programming environment. I usually remove mono, to get rid of those applications I don't want, then I can reinstall mono + MonoDevelop from a PPA and stay up to date. |
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