Worthless
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| Author | Content |
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| patrokov Aug 09, 2011 8:16 PM EDT |
Three of "alternatives" are flavors of Ubuntu: L, X, etc. So the alternative to ubuntu is ubuntu. |
| helios Aug 09, 2011 9:02 PM EDT |
No, it's not worthless. If all 5 of the "alternatives" were to be L, X, etc, then it would be worthless. However, I am sure everyone who uses Ubuntu may not know about Mint. It may just be the article that saves a return to Windows. Highly unlikely yes, but the internet is forever...someone could benefit. I'm just sayin... |
| BernardSwiss Aug 09, 2011 10:58 PM EDT |
Yes, it was a relatively shallow article, but not worthless. Besides, it was worth it for just this quote, alone... Quoting:With Kubuntu you will have a powerful computer, but you will need a powerful computer. |
| helios Aug 10, 2011 10:30 AM EDT |
but you will need a powerful computer. A friend of mine in Alberta made the comment to me a month ago that KDE reminded him of a car he bought when he was younger. It was a "rebuilt" 1974 Cadillac Seville, freshly painted with new interior and tires. He said that while it looked pretty good, it took forever to get up to highway speed and when it did, acceleration was still painful and it was subject to stall for several minutes before it kicked in again. Personally, I only retry KDE4 upon major releases now to see how much has changed. I do not or will not use it on my production machine...a dual core quad 6600 with 4 gigs of RAM. It seems even that isn't "powerful" enough to run it smoothly, even with desktop effects turned off. In all, yes, that was a telling quote. |
| lcafiero Aug 10, 2011 1:34 PM EDT |
I pretty much did a double- and triple-take at this article, but probably the main point that is lost -- and the fatal flaw in the entire article -- is that he's pointing out alternatives to the Unity desktop moreso than to Ubuntu itself. One of the funnier comments on the blog is, "So the alternative to Ubuntu is . . . Ubuntu?" |
| Jeff91 Aug 10, 2011 2:43 PM EDT |
I was just confused as to why Sabayon was recommend in the middle of all of those. I personally would never recommend Sabayon to a beginner. I think it is goofy to preinstall two package managers on your system that break each other (and random things) when both used to maintain the system. ~Jeff |
| dixiedancer Aug 10, 2011 9:20 PM EDT |
Linux Mint is just about as much Ubuntu as Lubu, Xubu, and Kubu are. But the differences in the 'buntus are deeper than just the desktop environments. I had always assumed that Xubuntu, for example, was just Ubuntu "with Xfce tied on." Not true. It's a true community-developed distro, unlike it's parent and older sibling (Kubuntu). It has much less bloat and unnecessary stuff these days than it did back when it WAS "Ubuntu with Xfce tied on." Lubuntu, in the same way, while "officially sanctioned" by Canonical is a community-built mixture that deserves better than to be quickly dismissed because of the last five letters in it's name. |
| jdixon Aug 10, 2011 10:53 PM EDT |
> inux Mint is just about as much Ubuntu as Lubu, Xubu, and Kubu are. Except for LMDE, which uses a Debian base. |
| Koriel Aug 11, 2011 2:05 AM EDT |
Linux Mint XFCE is also based on Debian and damn fine it is too. Funny enough I have just tried Gnome 2 on Mint Debian after years of vowing never to go near Gnome after bad experiences with the original Gnome on Redhat which drove me to KDE 1.0 on Mandrake and colour me stupid its actually pretty good whether this is down to the Mint team or Gnome team I have no idea though. I tweaked it too only consume 147mb on startup which is damn good for a DE of this magnitude, damn shame they have gone and killed it off maybe Linus is right and it may be worthwhile forking it. The only reason im using it though is because im doing some development work related to google chrome and google in their infinite wisdom have crippled the proxying capabilities of chrome unless it is run on gnome or kde. So i have to install a complete DE just so that google will honour the autoconfig_url which is present even when gnome isnt which is ludicrous and has been pointed out to the chrome and chromium developers but it appears those developers have been attending the KDE Developer lectures on how to win enemies and influence lusers but of course i digress. As an Ex Xubuntu and Kubuntu user im not sure why anyone would recommend those distro's over a similarly kitted out Linux Mint, I most certainly wont be going back just based on resource usage alone Xubuntu consumed over 230mb at startup although I managed to get it down to about 190 mb with a lot of tweaking, for crying out loud its XFCE which on Mint consumes about 140mb out of the box. My advice to someone looking for a good simple desktop distro is install Linux Mint XFCE and then install whatever other DE you want afterwards, for everything else there is Slackware. Even KDE4 on this setup has relatively low usage 360mb although in the case of KDE im obviously stretching the defintion to its limits some maybe even going as to say using poetic license :) My ha'penny's worth. |
| jdixon Aug 11, 2011 10:44 AM EDT |
> ... for everything else there is Slackware. As it was, is now, and ever shall be. :) Yeah, it's an exaggeration, but sometimes it feels like it's not. |
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