I can't tell if the article is a joke...

Story: Do Apple iPhones and iPads Outlast Google Android Devices?Total Replies: 9
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JaseP

Jul 29, 2011
12:49 PM EDT
I can't tell if the article is a joke or not... I mean, basing your argument over whether android is less of a worthy investment because the development of new hardware is taking part at an exponentially increasing pace?!?! Since the latest version of your device is 2 times ahead, you should think that you didn't make a commitment to the correct platform?!?! That's like arguing that we shouldd be using Commodore 64s, if Commodore was still around supporting the original hardware... That's one hell of a way to turn an argument aound on its hind quarters.
hkwint

Jul 29, 2011
2:49 PM EDT
I think that's only the point of the first part of the article, indeed that one doesn't make sense.

Short support for 'older' models makes sense though. That's why lots of people started using Linux in first place! If you spend €500 on a phone (I did, though it was stolen two weeks ago so now back on an old one) with a 2-year subscription plan to pay those €500, you expect it to have at least two years of software updates. If it's left 'unsupported' after 6 months then yes, I agree that's a reason not to buy such a phone. And maybe if you loose your job or other misfortune happens to you (and in these days, who's not struck by the crisis?), you will probably consider using it longer than two years. Even while people laugh at your phone, as they do on my SE K800 nowadays (yes, I know: It's a sign of my country being 'too rich').

Options are limited though, I'd say only HP's phones may be an alternative for those caring about their freedom. Android is probably a bad choice anyway, as it comes with more spyware than the average WinXP box - but then applied with consent of the OS-maker / user themselves. The stupid thing is I knew it and said 'OK' to it.
JaseP

Jul 29, 2011
6:02 PM EDT
So,... A buggy whip with user support is supposed.to be a good thing?!?!
gus3

Jul 29, 2011
6:56 PM EDT
As long as it can still be made to work as originally specified, nobody will tell the buggy whip user that he isn't allowed to continue using it.

And that's a good thing, with so many buggy whip users in this area.
TxtEdMacs

Jul 29, 2011
7:35 PM EDT
Oh, Oh ...

Am I getting the hint that the August Gus III is on to a new fetish. No, no stop now, before your skin is a lacerated infected mush. I don't give a damn how good looking she is ... as your buddy, please, please stick to Fonts.

YBT
patrokov

Jul 29, 2011
8:22 PM EDT
No, it's a good point. Several of the earlier model HTCs are stuck at 1.5, and they can never upgrade to 2.1 or 2.2. Don't even get me started over the Samsung Captivate. On the other hand, the ability to install a custom ROM is mighty nice if you're OEM/Carrier won't support the device any more.

The real reason for concern is the lack of a GOOD free e-mail app with DECENT IMAP support. (If I could just mix the features of K-9 with the functionality of Maildroid...)
gus3

Jul 29, 2011
9:48 PM EDT
Ahem...

@MBT:

I live in an area with a high concentration of Amish and Mennonites.

I'm starting to think your mind in the gutter might be an improvement.
moopst

Jul 29, 2011
11:29 PM EDT
I think it's the ownership model. Apple and the rest of the proprietary world lets you rent their software and hardware but choice is limited and the push is for long term subscribers and low maintenance costs. That's why in the '70's the rotary phone you had lasts forever.

Android phones and OSes are in a state of flux right now but in the future will probably become more commoditized on the hardware side and jailbroken / free on the OS side.
KernelShepard

Jul 30, 2011
12:17 AM EDT
@Hkwint:

That is my biggest gripe with my Android phone. My 3+ year old iPhone is still getting all of the latest and greatest software updates but my 1 year old Android phone is 6 or 7 months out-of-date and still waiting for the manufacturer to push an update. Even looking for an updated community-built ROM on the XDA forums turns up nothing newer, and really, how many consumers are going to be techie enough to install a community ROM to patch exploits and bugs? I've had to do it because I dared not wait for Samsung to finally release security fixes.

It seems to me that the only decent Android phones out there are the Google Nexus phones (Nexus One and Nexus S), anything else and you get shafted with poor frequency of software updates and high rate of kernel and other bugs. Sadly, these phones are the least likely phones for the average consumer to have access to. Most users out there are still on Android 1.6 or have a Samsung Galaxy S (which is plagued with problems) and at best stuck with Android 2.2. Android 2.3.3+ is the only decent version of Android.

It seems to me that Android was rushed big time. The quality is very poor and the UI is very inconsistent. Notice how the Back button sometimes goes to a higher-level view in the same app and sometimes goes to the Home screen, even from the same view in the app.
gus3

Jul 30, 2011
7:13 AM EDT
@moopst:

That is what I meant by "still works as originally specified." Pulse-dial (rotary) phones are no longer supported where live.

Then again, there was a five year stretch of warnings in every bill from the telco, so it isn't like anyone could claim ignorance of the issue.

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