D@mned shame, if true...
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| JaseP Feb 10, 2011 6:54 PM EDT |
This is a d@mned shame, if true. Especially it's a shame if these so-called new partnerships include M$, where I believe Elop was formerly employed. But I read the memo, & I bet that the next Nokia device will be built on Android. Android is ok, but it's no Maemo. Nokia should have insisted on a Debian base for Meego from the beginning, rather than Fedora. All Maemo's active developers were experienced with a Debian based distro & Intel's Moblin was in a death spiral. Making Meego a Fedora based distro alienated many of them. My N900 can run any Android device into the ground. But Nokia squandered their lead in TRUE innovation. Meego hasn't even gotten off the ground. But Meego development has stalled because they wasted development resources on Handset and IVI, rather than taking the base that was Maemo, & creating modified interfaces for different usage cases. So, tablets passed them by, and frankly, nobody gives a rat's hind quarter about netbook UI's. Netbooks are better served by Ubuntu Netbook Remix or the dozen other copycats. I guess it is summed up for me that my next phone will be an Android one. That, or I might just snap up as many N900s as I can get at discount. |
| Steven_Rosenber Feb 10, 2011 8:51 PM EDT |
First they kill the N900, then Moblin, now Meego? |
| jimbauwens Feb 11, 2011 4:27 AM EDT |
Nokia has done the deal with the devil, but:Nokia wrote:Under the new strategy, MeeGo becomes an open-source, mobile operating system project. MeeGo will place increased emphasis on longer-term market exploration of next-generation devices, platforms and user experiences. Nokia still plans to ship a MeeGo-related product later this year. and: Nokia wrote:With Nokia's planned move to Windows Phone as its primary smartphone platform, Symbian becomes a franchise platform, leveraging previous investments to harvest additional value. This strategy recognizes the opportunity to retain and transition the installed base of 200 million Symbian owners. Nokia expects to sell approximately 150 million more Symbian devices in the years to come Maybe its not that bad, and I'm sure intel will still be developing for it. |
| JaseP Feb 11, 2011 9:41 AM EDT |
Windows phone!?!? They announced that?!?! OK, that's it, Nokia is officially dead to me for any devices beyond the N900. I still might pick up an extra or two N900s when I see a significant price drop. I can't believe that the guy rails against platforms that are stagnant, with no market presence & then chooses to partner with Micro$oft, of all companies... I predict Nokia will have a new CEO inside of 5 years, maybe inside of 3 years. |
| penguinist Feb 11, 2011 12:44 PM EDT |
As I write this, Nokia stock has dropped by 14% on the New York Stock Exchange on the news of their Microsoft partnership! Microsoft is also down slightly. Meego was an exciting future that a lot of us were looking forward to. It would seem that investors are very much not impressed by Nokia's decision. |
| hkwint Feb 11, 2011 12:55 PM EDT |
I don't see this as Nokia's decision. I think it's Microsofts decision. Shareholders agree, I believe. |
| henke54 Feb 11, 2011 2:40 PM EDT |
If this is going trough : http://www.npr.org/2011/02/11/133684944/nokia-microsoft-join... i,( as many others, according to my reading on several forums ) am gonna 'abandon' nokia .... that is a 'statement'.... |
| Steven_Rosenber Feb 11, 2011 3:46 PM EDT |
I had my last Nokia phone about 8 years ago ... they just aren't much of a factor in the U.S. these days. |
| TxtEdMacs Feb 11, 2011 8:03 PM EDT |
Quoting:I don't see this as Nokia's decision. I think it's Microsofts decision. Depends upon your view of the facts, e.g. the new CEO that was hired to save Nokia was an old time MS exec. Thus, if in truth that's where he still takes his orders, you are factually correct and perhaps their should be a criminal investigation. Recently I read a financial article that told of this person's [Nokia's CEO] dire analysis of his companies prospects. The author of the article predicted the better choice between Windows Phone 7 and Android was the latter, whereas I presumed from the CEO's history that the MS product was the more likely. Quoting:... they just aren't much of a factor in the U.S. these days. True, however, that just might be the reason for choosing MS. That is, MS still has clout here and need not win on its merit. Moreover, Nokia has deep relationships with the major wireless companies. Right now Nokia is one of the top sellers of handsets and despite being a laggard with smart phones. Nonetheless, it still is by some measure the leader in cash it derives from those sales. My hope is the latter statistic was either a typo or a factual error. [I only wish it were a joke.] |
| tmx Feb 11, 2011 10:08 PM EDT |
I have been waiting for the N900 successor, it'll be disappointing if it turned out to be a Windows Phone 7 (sounds like Office Open). I hope they'll at least be enough developers and interests to finish a fully functional Meego and keep the interest. If Knockia isn't going to be committed to Meego anymore, I don't see any other manufacturers wanting to sponsore it. I guess Intel could pitch it to some lesser popular companies like Motorola, but they wouldn't want it. The best alternative would be for me to carry two devices, a cheap MetroPCS phone + Pandora. I must say it was stupid for me to withdraw the preorder on the Pandora. |
| hkwint Feb 12, 2011 8:33 AM EDT |
No, Nokia's CEO "gave up" on MeeGo, Symbian - and as a result also isn't interested in Qt anymore. Of course, as Microsoft's business manager, he never was interested in those anyway. He's going to push XNA, Silverlight, .NET and whatever technologies Microsoft wants Nokia developers to use into Nokia. So in one 'swipe', Microsoft got rid of Symbian, Linux and Qt at Nokia! Well done. Google and HP are hiring ex-Nokia people it seems, as both of them are working on their Linux-based platforms. I think for those like me who don't like Google but want to buy a "big-brand phone" (meaning: No Openmoko or something like it), WebOS might be the best alternative at the moment. |
| penguinist Feb 12, 2011 2:36 PM EDT |
I should say that I've been super happy with webOS on my Palm Pre phone. As smartphones go, my Pre was about as open as it gets. Palm supported root access directly and openly published access information, so no one had to "jump through hoops" to be able to have control of their device. I really appreciated that, and this enabled me to set up some special purpose scripts for monitoring and administering remote server systems. Something that would be impossible with the closed systems that are being sold these days. I hope it is something that HP continues as they advance the webOS to more devices. If HP keeps webOS open on their tablet, then that will be my next purchase, and will be my recommendation to friends and colleagues. |
| jimbauwens Feb 12, 2011 5:51 PM EDT |
Interesting read: http://eu.techcrunch.com/2011/02/12/intel-kept-in-the-dark-o... |
| JaseP Feb 14, 2011 10:57 AM EDT |
M$ back-stabs Intel on a thing that relates to the Atom line,... no shocker. It would be a nice time to pressure Intel into releasing GMA500/600 drivers, widely, on Linux. I think the M$/Intel cold war just got a tiny bit warmer. |
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