How I hope this is not just a rave review by a KDE4 fan.
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| Ridcully Jan 11, 2011 11:05 PM EDT |
I recently explained how I got KDE4.4.4 to work like KDE3.5 and how it all came together. It is now well over 3 months and possibly 4 months since I made the transition from KDE3.5 and I remain extremely happy with the software. For my personal and perhaps rather simplistic use it has remained extremely stable, responsive, as fast as I could wish or need and I continue to enjoy using it. If this latest article is accurate, then I have quite a treat in store for me when openSUSE hits the streets with its next version ~ with the proviso that I can still do to KDE4.5 what I did to KDE4.4 . One lives in hope. |
| tracyanne Jan 12, 2011 12:22 AM EDT |
Well I've already tried KDE4.5.4, and commented on it in THAT thread. |
| Ridcully Jan 12, 2011 12:33 AM EDT |
Tracyanne, I'm as dense as a lump of lead in finding my way around this site sometimes and I don't keep track of the threads I have replied to. I searched on stories with KDE4.5, but came up with nothing that fitted your comment. If it's not too much trouble, do you still have an LXer reference to the thread with those comments ? |
| Ridcully Jan 12, 2011 12:54 AM EDT |
Found it........I think......it's in the "Sincere thanks to the beta testers"......Thanks anyhow and that gives me some hope that KDE4.5 release is going to be better - when I get to it. |
| ComputerBob Jan 12, 2011 1:35 AM EDT |
To me, the article intro reads just like the intro to practically every new-KDE4-version article I've ever seen, since around KDE 4.1.x. "We all know that KDE4 has been a huge disappointment, but that's all in the past, now that KDE4.x.x.x is out! Trust us -- it's REALLY, REALLY GOOD now!" I don't know or even care if they're telling the truth this time or not, because, to me, it's too little, too late -- I stopped trusting them a long, long time ago. |
| Ridcully Jan 12, 2011 2:53 AM EDT |
@ComputerBob......hey, you've triggered some unpleasant memories of something that was always bigger and better.....lemme seeeeee.........Win95, yeah.......Win98, yep, Win98SE....oh yes, greatest of all.........WinXP....indubitably and will solve all security and stability problems.......Vista.....huzzah, how true - not........Win7....the greatest yet and SO secure......oh, but wait, there's more: Win8......and this time, believe us, it will be soooooo much better. LOL !!!!! I'm a cynic, but I think you are dead right......The KDE4 fanwavers have been taking lessons I feel. Nevertheless, if you can get past this sad nonsense, there might actually be some useful software in the package. |
| hkwint Jan 12, 2011 2:59 AM EDT |
Ridcully: You _did_ read the KDE4.6 RC article I hope? It said: The most prominent planned KDE 4.6 changes (compared to 4.5) were in Akonadi, but it had too much bugs so they postponed it to 4.7, and apart from that, there are not any 'big' improvements compared to 4.5. Apart from the Activities, of which most people don't see the benefit of having them at all. So I'm afraid if 4.4.4 doesn't work that well for you, you'll have to wait at least until 4.7 before trying again. |
| Ridcully Jan 12, 2011 4:06 AM EDT |
@hkwint........Hi Hans (I think that's the name, feel free to hurl a brick at me if it isn't.... :-) ) DO please go read my first post on this thread. I have stressed that I am very pleased with KDE4.4.4, now that it is running the way **I** want it to run, not the way the KDE4 team think it should run with their defaults. I probably have seen the KDE4.6RC article, but paid little attention. All I have been talking about is KDE4.5 which seems to have good press so far.....Fear not, when I move in an upgrade I tend to be ultra-conservative. I am slow, painstaking and I only take the final steps after extensive checking that what I am moving to is an improvement - and even with openSUSE's incredibly good engineering, they have made some rather large "muckups" in some of their versions. We're all human...lol....and sometimes we try to make developers superhuman so that they satisfy all our personal needs at all times in an OS and DE. Usually, KDE in openSUSE is very, very good........But honestly, what I have at the moment in KDE4.4.4 satisfies **all** my requirements, so until I get to test KDE4.5 in the next issue of openSUSE, I won't even look at the general moves in KDE4 in versions 6 & 7...sound's like shark-infested waters to me !! |
| ComputerBob Jan 12, 2011 11:36 AM EDT |
Quoting:Nevertheless, if you can get past this sad nonsense, there might actually be some useful software in the package. That may be true, and you may be right, but, like a lot of other people, after going to all the trouble to switch from KDE to a different DE or WM (Xfce, in my case), and learn to configure it and learn how to use it, and get used to using it, and come to love it, I see no compelling reason to even try KDE4 again. And don't even get me started about all the bad feelings that I have toward those who turned what had been my favorite DE for more than 3 years into something that I now don't even want to see any more. ;) |
| dinotrac Jan 12, 2011 12:12 PM EDT |
CB -- Understood. After using KDE for 10 years, I'm not sure what would get me to try it again after being shoved out of the user base. |
| hkwint Jan 12, 2011 12:44 PM EDT |
Ridcully: Yeah, Hans is my name. Of course I did read your post and articles, but I felt you were waiting for something that "out of the box" worked like 3.5, without spending days to change KDE4's configuration. |
| Bob_Robertson Jan 12, 2011 1:02 PM EDT |
> I'm not sure what would get me to try it again Trinity. Two, or is it three months now?, and it's just KDE3.5. KDE4 applications work just fine, too. |
| Ridcully Jan 12, 2011 5:50 PM EDT |
@hkwint.....Yes, understood. The absurdity is that although on that first occasion I fought for so long to get KDE4.4.4 working the way **I** want it, I now know how to go through the same procedures and a couple of hours is all I need. As I have previously indicated, I detested KDE4 until I forced the package to work more or less like KDE3.5. Once you do that, it's not bad in my opinion. I remain firmly convinced that what the current KDE4 team is doing continues to be against the best interests of the user base, but that's my subjective opinion only. @ dinotrack, Bob_Robertson and ComputerBob.......again, understood and I more or less agree with your positions. I think the KDE4 team alienated, more or less permanently, a huge number of their supporters who will never have the wish to pick up the software package as it now is. And why should you ? It was sheer stubborn "bloody-mindedness" on my part that made me attack KDE4.4.4 in an attempt to turn it into KDE3.5, but it's not to everybody's taste and it would be a dull old world if it was. I have been watching the progress of Trinity as I am on their info lists and the activity is stunning. Sooner or later, I think/hope a major distro will opt to put Trinity as one of their DE selections and the results of that will be very interesting to watch. I have yet to try Trinity myself, but all indications, including your comments BoB_Roberston, are that it "works just fine". Sounds good. |
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