Mono?
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| viator Jan 10, 2011 8:26 AM EDT |
The ONLY reason anyone follows the mono project AT ALL nowdays is to see if they got moonlight working properly so they can have NETFLIX on their linux box. I would rather wait for a native client of course but another way would be when they release the android app for netflix youll be able to run the emulator and therfore netflix. By the way i hope all of you have called netflix on the phone and asked WHY is it that hulu released a hulu plus app for android but you havent released your android app yet. |
| dinotrac Jan 10, 2011 8:39 AM EDT |
Personally, Netflix is less interesting than mono until they beef up their streaming catalog. It seems like 3 times out of 4 I want to watch a Netflix movie, it is available only on disk. |
| hkwint Jan 10, 2011 12:08 PM EDT |
As Netflix is US-only, it being or not being available on Linux is an issue for a small minority of the world population only. Of course, I can call them and ask why it's not available in the EU. But they'll point directly to Hollywood. |
| dinotrac Jan 10, 2011 12:43 PM EDT |
EU? Is that a part of the world? I really do wish more American companies knew how to read a map. Might see a lot more things coming out for Linux if they understood that "those other places" are part of the same planet, and able to spend money. |
| hkwint Jan 10, 2011 3:01 PM EDT |
I don't blame Hulu, Netflix or Vevo (which has been unavailable outside US for some time too). It's just a missed opportunity for Hollywood, as over 50% of TV-time in this country is filled with US Television. Meaning some series are very popular (CSI, Prison Break, Sex & the City, Desperate Houswives and what more, I don't know what's hot currently) and people over here are willing to pay to view those. Vevo is available now though, I think they managed the ads now. As for the Linux problem: Probably we'll have to wait until the set-top boxes provide these kind of functions, or maybe Google TV. They'll probably run Linux, so maybe it can be ported to the desktop by then? |
| helios Jan 10, 2011 3:22 PM EDT |
I was just given a roku box for christmas but haven't hooked it up yet. Anyone like or dislike it? Is it worth the trouble? I have an old 32 inch CRT type flatscreen TV so the HDMI is wasted on me. We currently watch netflix via WinXP on VirtualBox from bed...not overwhelmed with the choices...Some jewels amid the dirt clods and it's cheap enough. I'm just not sure there's enough there to merit the effort to hook it up to the living room TV. And yes, regardless of the reasons, Netflix is missing a HUGE opportunity by being blacked out in Europe. Huge. h |
| gus3 Jan 10, 2011 4:49 PM EDT |
@helios, can't you use an HDMI-to-VGA adapter? I think my mother has one on her mini-desktop system. Also, Netflix has nobody to blame for their European blackout than themselves. Nobody else did it to them. |
| herzeleid Jan 10, 2011 6:47 PM EDT |
@helios - I was given a roku box by a friend who got a ps3 and didn't need the roku any more. It took awhile before I actually hooked it up, but once I did, I was impressed. I've watched a lot of netflix streaming movies through roku with no problems (except for the fact the netflix streaming movies didn't have any subtitles). I recently ditched netflix and signed up for hulu plus, which the roku box accepted without a hitch. Now I get all the new shows that I couldn't get on netflix, and I get subtitles if I want them. In all the time I've had the roku box, it's just worked, never a crash, never a glitch, except when my internet service was down, and naturally I couldn't download anything at that point. As an appliance it has been perfect. In addition to netflix or hulu plus there are other channels available including amazon video on demand and many more. I recommend roku without reservations. |
| KernelShepard Jan 11, 2011 9:42 AM EDT |
Quoting:The ONLY reason anyone follows the mono project AT ALL nowdays is to see if they got moonlight working properly so they can have NETFLIX on their linux box. Don't confuse your own fantasy for reality. A lot of mobile developers are watching Mono with interest because of MonoTouch and MonoDroid which allow them to reuse the same codebase for writing apps on both platforms (plus WP7 if it ever takes off). If you don't believe me, take a gander at the MonoDroid mailing-lists. From Miguel's tweets, they've got several thousand mobile developers interested in MonoDroid. Before the public beta, I'm pretty sure he said they had something like 1500 private beta testers. Also, if you went to CES, you would have seen NVidia demo a Mono-based game engine. Mono seems to be taking off and by anyone's definition is a success. |
| KernelShepard Jan 11, 2011 9:45 AM EDT |
Turns out Miguel blogged about the game engine that NVidia demoed: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2011/Jan-06.html |
| helios Jan 11, 2011 12:28 PM EDT |
plus WP7 if it ever takes off http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12152517 Seems that even their phones phone home, which at least makes sense, since it is after all...a phone. Of course, it does so at 60+ percent of the cost of the customer's data plan. I'm sure that is going to help sales immensely, not to mention the inherent mistrust many have of Microsoft. h |
| JaseP Jan 11, 2011 6:55 PM EDT |
And everyone was up Google's butt about war-driving... Who knows what data that thing is sending back & forth... ?!?!? |
| hkwint Jan 12, 2011 2:55 AM EDT |
KS: Wait, does that mean Mono is more popular in the Mobile Space than Silverlight? Given Silverlight doesn't run on iPhone / Android while Mono _does_ run on Android and WP7 has yet to gain a notable market share, I believe the above statement will probably be correct for some time to come (read: Until MS throws another few billion bucks at it to make their partners push it). How interesting, Microsoft's half-open project losing to another project because Microsoft failed to make their project (Silverlight) run on other OS'es beyond theirs. Soon people will complain "Silverlight is not compatible enough with Moonlight" and MS should do more to catch up with Moonlight, instead of the other way around. Now, that would be fun! |
| theBeez Jan 12, 2011 3:42 AM EDT |
@hkwint
LOL, Moonlight doesn't deliver what it promises most of the time. A LOT of users that install it (simply for viewing some streamed video) can't watch the content on their popular streams anyway (Uitzending gemist, SBS6, RTL XL, etc.) However, SO DOES SILVERLIGHT! Where the installation and utilization of Flash is mostly painless, there are a LOT of problems with Silverlight on the native platform as well. Just browse the forums. In short: a big FAIL in any shape or form. |
| tracyanne Jan 12, 2011 5:35 AM EDT |
Quoting:However, SO DOES SILVERLIGHT! Where the installation and utilization of Flash is mostly painless, there are a LOT of problems with Silverlight on the native platform as well. Just browse the forums. Ah but you can program it in any .Net language. |
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