Becomming more and more a second rate copy of Mac OSX
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| tracyanne Jan 08, 2011 11:46 PM EDT |
I'm posting this from a copy of Natty I have running in a VM. Firefox 4 is nice though. What we now have, in this beta of Natty, is the same unmovable bar down the LH side which contains icons of the running applications, plus a standard panel at the bottom with a list of the same running applications. Oh there is a slight difffence, the panel on the LH side has a Folder view that can be launced from it, an icon for Firefox which can be launced and a gnore icon. These icons are there by default when no applications are running. This panel cannot be moved or hidden , so make sure you have pley of desktop space by default. At the top is a panel with a global menu in itand on the left an Ubuntu icon, when you click on the Ubuntu Icon you get the replacement for the menu, it's a direct copy of the Mac OSX "menu"... a folder which contains launch icons for all the applications on your system. Incidentally Synaptic Package Manager doesn't default to opening by the root user, so when you launch it from this 'menu" it opens in non root mode. I launched it from the terminal. Obviously Canonical are attempting to depricate Synaptic Package Manager. I attempted to install Gnome Shell, but was unable to do so, as there are missing dependencies, this is probably because this is a beta. Thankfully it seems possible to install a standard GNOME desktop, I'm doin that at the moment. When it's installed, I'll doa bit more testing. I'm simply not in the least impressed with the default desktop. |
| tracyanne Jan 09, 2011 12:14 AM EDT |
Natty appears to have OpenOffice.org 3.2, not LibreOffice 3.3, nor even OpenOffice.org 3.3. Interesting. Now that I have a standard GNOME desktop, I can have a look around and see what applications are available by default. That Unity desktop is such a piece of puss. It's had to se exactly what Canonical are doing, but at the moment at least they seem bent on copying MacOSX as much as possible. I wonder if that means losing their identity. |
| cabreh Jan 09, 2011 10:14 AM EDT |
Unity is one reason I have been running the Debian edition of Linux Mint on a test desktop and my laptop for a while now. I'm just getting ready for when I have to dump Ubuntu. I'm starting to get used to the differences already. |
| viator Jan 09, 2011 1:54 PM EDT |
Im running the netbook edition wich is unity on my laptop i have a few macs and i dont think the comparison is 100% accurate. The most glaring difference is that the file menu is connected to the application and not seperate ala osx and i hope it stays that way. There are a few things i dont like being dumbed down and one is the file system view if you are going anywhere besides your home folder media files etc ifs difficult to navigate. |
| tracyanne Jan 09, 2011 5:15 PM EDT |
@viator the netbook edition of Unity in 10.10 is slightly different from the desktop edition that is available in 11.04, and probably will always be. The net book edition has a different menu structure even in the older (non unity) versions. In the beta version of 11.04 (Natty Narwhal), I'm refering to, the menu is accessed from the top panel by clicking on the Ubuntu logo (it's on the far left.) this opens an instance of nautilus in a Folder wich contains applications launchers. This is exactly the same as the experience of using Mac OSX where when you select the "go" menu option (on the global menu) then select "Applications" from the drop down menu you are presented with an instance of the MacOSX filemanager opened at a folder that contains application launchers fro all the applications available on the Mac. The only difference is the Unity version of this functionality is 1 click instead of 2.... maybe that makes it better, though for the life of me I can't see how it makes finding any particular application easier, as you now have to search through dozens of icons instead of easy to read and well categorised menu items. Another difference from the Mac is of course the stupid left hand panel, which takes up desktop space, can't be moved, can't be hidden. However what isaid was theyseem to be copying MacOSX as much as possible, I think that's a reasonable summation of the current state of the Unity desktop. |
| jimbauwens Jan 09, 2011 6:23 PM EDT |
I think that the action on the ubuntu logo is temporary, and will change. It normally should show category buttons on the Desktop. Also I read somewhere that it is possible that gnome shell will not be in repositories when natty gets released (because it is broken, as packages of gnome conflict with packages of unity). |
| tracyanne Jan 09, 2011 6:41 PM EDT |
Quoting:I think that the action on the ubuntu logo is temporary, and will change. Granted, that is a possibility. Quoting:It normally should show category buttons on the Desktop. On a desktop computer, which is what this version of natty purports to be for (this NOT the netbook edition) that is simply ridiculous. |
| tmx Jan 09, 2011 7:19 PM EDT |
When the stable version come out I'll probably just use UCK to customize it and remove the Wayland and install Gnome desktop. btw if you want LibreOffice for Ubuntu: sudo apt-get purge openoffice*.* sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install libreoffice libreoffice-gnome |
| tracyanne Jan 09, 2011 11:23 PM EDT |
Quoting:btw if you want LibreOffice for Ubuntu That's how I got LibreOffice on my machine. I thought it quite strange, that, given Canonical is a LibreOffice supporter, they don't have Libre Office on the Beta of Natty, they don't even have the latest version of OO.o. |
| dinotrac Jan 09, 2011 11:48 PM EDT |
Cabreh - I just brought my wife's work station up on Debian Mint. Seems pretty nice. |
| cabreh Jan 10, 2011 3:30 AM EDT |
@dinotrac Yes, I haven't found anything I can't (easily) get to work properly on my two test systems. Unlike several other distributions I have tried on them (one reason I was using Ubuntu). I'm getting quite used to LMDE. On the laptop (Packard Bell EasyNote BG48) I had to do kernel compiles using Ubuntu due to PCIE Hotplug being enabled and the laptop having a defective implementation. I don't have this issue with LMDE. |
| viator Jan 10, 2011 8:18 AM EDT |
@ Tracyanne you are correct in the differences between desktop and netbook editions except that netbook edition does have the launcher/ starmenu in the top left just like the desktop version and osx. "Another difference from the Mac is of course the stupid left hand panel, which takes up desktop space, can't be moved, can't be hidden. " Ive read that the panel will be able to become transparent and "auto hide" in the full release. |
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