Needs a web interface
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| hkwint Nov 10, 2010 7:50 PM EDT |
Now, if this technology only had a web interface (GUI of course!), I think it would be a great tool to phase out PowerPoint / OO Impress. I remember countless times people had trouble showing a presentation (even at FOSDEM!) because of problems with OOo and the medium on which the presentation was carried. If a presentation becomes a kind of website, the problems with the medium will be gone. Moreover, also the "this-laptops-battery-is-empty-so-we-have-to-use-the-macbook-but-it-doesnt-have-OOo-installed"-problem will be gone. Then, when doing a presentation, only the beamer itself and the cables will be culprits; and life will (almost) be good again! |
| helios Nov 11, 2010 1:11 PM EDT |
I appreciate Joe's input, I had the chance to spend a good amount of time with Zonker at the Texas Linux Fest. He's a great guy. However I am having problems understanding how the standard office drone will find this useful. They attain (like many of us) just enough skills to do their job and move on. I don't see how adding the task of learning HTML is going to attract mainstream users. Yeah, it's a great thing for us that have the basics ingrained into our fingertips but for the rest, I'm just not seein' the viability. The addition of an online editor with HTML ability is a great idea. Maybe I missed something here. |
| tuxchick Nov 11, 2010 1:14 PM EDT |
Oh come on Ken, everything can't be for dummies! Though a nice GUI would be good, and even a two-way Web like Berners-Lee originally envisioned, instead of read-only. |
| bigg Nov 11, 2010 1:49 PM EDT |
Just use Beamer with LyX. It doesn't get much easier than that for basic presentations. It can't, because it's so easy. |
| helios Nov 11, 2010 4:09 PM EDT |
bigg...that depends on your target users. Would Nancy Notype know what LyX or Beamer is? She knows PowerPoint. She uses PowerPoint, despite it's inability to even cross the lines between Office 2003 and 2007/2010. It's a great geek tool and I've tried it. it would work for you or me. For Nancy...not so much. h |
| hkwint Nov 11, 2010 8:06 PM EDT |
Maybe there would be a point in putting a PowerPoint-like interface on top of this technology? I think almost everybody would like a free PowerPoint-clone where you don't need PowerPoint to play / make the presentation, are not locked in and no Windows-dependency. I think the file format may be a bit of a hassle though, you have to be rather proficient at JavaScript to create something which writes these files I guess. Sadly, I only got my feet wet with JavaScript (trying to implement a command line, difficult enough for me, ahem), so my skills certainly lack. |
| Steven_Rosenber Nov 16, 2010 10:10 PM EDT |
I'm using Google Docs for this kind of thing ... I know it's freedom-hating, invasive of my privacy and all that, but it's too convenient. |
| helios Nov 17, 2010 11:13 AM EDT |
I know it's freedom-hating, invasive of my privacy and all that, but it's too convenient. LOL...you do realize that is the argument Windows Users give for not using Linux? I'm guilty of it myself...the fact that I know something else exists but... Our fight is as much against our own human nature than it is between a proprietary software company. I've always said that the genius of Bill Gates wasn't in code...it was in understanding human behavior. h |
| Steven_Rosenber Nov 17, 2010 1:58 PM EDT |
If there was a cloud-based, encrypted filesystem that was baked into the default configuration of my system, something a mere mortal can invoke, I'd use that instead. |
| helios Nov 17, 2010 4:08 PM EDT |
You and me both...I am a heavy user of all-things-google. Even toying with getting a google phone number. Not sure if I need it or not but heck, in for a penny, in for a pound... h |
| hkwint Nov 17, 2010 8:21 PM EDT |
Quoting:If there was a cloud-based, encrypted filesystem[ Easy to DIY with a VPS. Thing is, when you use Google, it's for free. With VPS, it's not. ed: Need to write article about above, please remind me if I don't. |
| Steven_Rosenber Nov 17, 2010 9:17 PM EDT |
@helios I got the google phone number, but I really don't need it. The only way you can record a Google Voice call is to initiate that call from your cell phone. And if you're already on a cell phone, why do you need Google Voice anyway? AND it barely works with a cell phone (lots of dropouts). For production I use Skype and Audio Hijack Pro on the Mac. I'd love to do this all in Linux, but Skype Call Recorder barely works at all. If I could run Skype and get a decent recording in Linux, I'd be extremely happy. Ever try to mix down audio in Audacity on a Mac PPC system? It takes 3 to 4 times as long as it does on my Fedora laptop ... (that's dual 1.8 GHz G5 PPC vs. dual-core AMD Athlon at 2.1 GHz; you wouldn't think the difference would be that much, but it is). Sorry to hijack this thread. And now, back to freedom-loving presentation software ... |
| gus3 Nov 17, 2010 9:49 PM EDT |
Quoting:if you're already on a cell phone, why do you need Google Voice anyway?If you make the Google Voice number one of your commonly-called numbers (e.g. on Alltel, it's called "My Circle"), then you can call it during peak times, without incurring airtime charges. From there, you can call anywhere. My brother uses Google Voice during the daytime to call any number not in his My Circle list. |
| hkwint Nov 18, 2010 1:12 AM EDT |
Steven: Good news is, NX announced a 'web player' for their NXserver in 2008. Bad news is, NX is pretty hard to configure (too tired ATM), and I can't find anything about how to enable the web player. Moreover, the docs are about all kinda fancy authentication schemes, adding nodes and load balancing and setting up user DB's, while all I want is one friggin' user on one server! They say WebPlayer will be in 4.0, but 3.4 is the newest thing I can find. The demo is offline currently. Just sent them a mail to ask about its availability. If it were available, I think installing NXServer and Abiword/Gnumeric on your el-cheapo VPS (you could even use encrypted HD on your VPS if you want) and then connecting using JavaScript WebPlayer over an encrypted internet-connection would almost bring you what you wish. Except for costing about 4 Euro's a month for < 10GB traffic, but at least you'd own your own data again. BTW: wow, English is really a stupid language, how can you not _own_ your _own_ data? Reductio ad absurdum reveals this paradox can only lead to the conclusion assumptions were wrong, so the data cannot have been yours / cannot have existed in first place! |
| hkwint Nov 21, 2010 4:41 PM EDT |
Today, I got a reply from NoMachine about the WebPlayer one can use to create a private-cloud:
Quoting: We are working hard on development of NX 4.0(including NX Web Palyer). As yet we are unable to provide an exact time of release of the final version mainly because the first step is to make a beta version available very soon. User feedback and eventual bug fixing of the beta will be the decisive factors in finalizing the release of NX 4.0 in production. |
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