And here I thought people would rejoice at this news
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| Scott_Ruecker Sep 10, 2010 3:49 PM EDT |
And here I thought people would rejoice at this news..I have only tried out Solaris once before but I liked it and I know that there are many who visit LXer that have had or do use it.. I just thought someone would have expressed their happiness about this announcement by now.. I think it very cool that it is getting forked and will continue to be worked on. |
| gus3 Sep 10, 2010 4:28 PM EDT |
Quoting:it is getting forkedYour words, not mine. Heh. Honestly, after Oracle hung the OpenSolaris out to dry, and then pulled their stunt against Google, I find it difficult to muster any enthusiasm for the former Sun Microsystems products. Call it FUD if you want, but I think it's justified in the face of such open hostility. |
| caitlyn Sep 10, 2010 5:27 PM EDT |
Is IlluminOS another fork? How many will we have and how will they diverge? Also, Oracle is continuing Solaris development as a proprietary OS. To me the main reason to run openSolaris was to replicate a work environment at home without the need for expensive Sun hardware. Why would openIndiana, which doesn't have nearly the hardware support of Linux or BSD, and which is more resource hungry than those as well, be a choice I would want to make after it goes it's own way? |
| Steven_Rosenber Sep 10, 2010 6:38 PM EDT |
I could never get OpenSolaris to boot on anything. I did manage to get MilaX to run, which was strange because it's based on the same kernel. I wonder what the licensing situation will be for IlluminOS ... |
| hkwint Sep 10, 2010 7:13 PM EDT |
Scott: For those who liked OpenSolaris, I'm happy. But I think *Solaris users have been a fading minority already anyway. Used for the same reason as why people use Windows: They're familiar with it, their applications run on it and it works. I mean, if you were to choose new hardware and an operating system today, why would you choose Solaris? That's what Oracle thought when they started their "Unbreakable Linux" and BRTFS projects, I guess. Apart from that, Indiana sounds like a continuation, not a fork. From what I learned, if you have a fork (like XFree86), first you have one, then you have two (XF86/Xorg). However, what happens here, sounds more like: First you had OpenSolaris, now OpenSolaris is dead, and now there's OpenIndiana instead. Of course, it's better than nothing, but it would have probably been better had OpenSolaris not died. Anyway, if it will become the CentOS of Oracle Solaris, I think it has its place and merits. |
| tuxchick Sep 10, 2010 10:02 PM EDT |
Rejoice! Rejoice! We have no choice! :D |
| kenholmz Sep 10, 2010 11:21 PM EDT |
".I have only tried out Solaris once before but I liked it"
Scott, I tried Solaris more than once. I liked it, and yes, I did inhaled. I'm not sure about these OS mutations. It may lead to extinction or it may strengthen the gene pool. I respect the resolve of those forkers, it's like Masada or the Battle of Thermopylae. I wish them well. |
| caitlyn Sep 11, 2010 12:28 PM EDT |
@Hans: I think fork is more appropriate than continuation for one reason. openIndiana can't be like CentOS. Oracle Solaris is closed source and proprietary. When Solaris 11 comes along there is no way to implement the new features or changes other than reverse engineering, perhaps, and maybe not even that due to patents and copyrights. Red Hat, in contrast, releases their source code. All the CentOS and Scientific Linux folks do is strip out trademarks and branding. They are essentially compiling the Red Hat source code. To me the two, unfortunately, are worlds apart. |
| hkwint Sep 11, 2010 12:44 PM EDT |
@Caitlyn: Ah, you're right, I must have been sleeping... Somehow I thought Solaris would continue to be released under CDDL, but now OpenSolaris is dead, probably new "Oracle" code won't be released to the public. Nonetheless, if the OpenSolaris branche dies, one "half of the fork" is gone I think. |
| tqk Sep 12, 2010 5:56 PM EDT |
Quoting:Red Hat, in contrast, releases their source code. All the CentOS and Scientific Linux folks do is strip out trademarks and branding. They are essentially compiling the Red Hat source code. My favourite on my U30 was Splack; Slackware for Sparc. |
| caitlyn Sep 12, 2010 8:06 PM EDT |
U30? Nice machine! I still kind of miss my SGI O2. MIPS processor, very fast in its day. |
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