Shana Tovah!

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caitlyn

Sep 08, 2010
3:13 PM EDT
This evening at sundown is the start of Rosh Hashana, the Jewish New Year. It is also the beginning of the High Holy Days for Jewish people, 10 days of reflection and penitence. It is the start of the year 5177, a year that is shaping up to be interesting to say the least.

I would like to take a moment to wish everyone Shana Tovah. May the coming year be happy, healthy, prosperous and sweet for you.
Steven_Rosenber

Sep 08, 2010
3:34 PM EDT
Thank you, Caitlyn, and the same goes for me to y'all ...
tracyanne

Sep 08, 2010
5:36 PM EDT
Over here it's Thursday, good morning.
jacog

Sep 09, 2010
8:30 AM EDT
Yarr, and happy Eid Mubarak to all the Muslim folks also. :)
Storyteller

Sep 10, 2010
4:21 PM EDT
Hello Caitlyn, I think your fingers must have slipped on the keyboard. Is it not the start of year 5771?

Shana Tovah and enjoy the apples and honey.
caitlyn

Sep 10, 2010
5:28 PM EDT
Yes, indeed. Today is 3 Tishrei 5771.
tracyanne

Sep 10, 2010
5:46 PM EDT
Over here it's Saturday September 11 2010
caitlyn

Sep 10, 2010
5:55 PM EDT
@tracyanne: On the commonly used calendar, yes. For Australian Jews it is also Shabbat, 4 Tishrei 5771. I'm sure Australian Muslims have their own date on their own calendar as well.
tracyanne

Sep 10, 2010
6:03 PM EDT
@caitlyn I don't know and I care less. Indeed, even the calendar I'm using is inspired by yet another myth, but it is the one commonly accepted as the current measure of date and time.

As far as I know the real date and time is 4,600,000,000.675 good morning.
caitlyn

Sep 10, 2010
6:35 PM EDT
So you are dismissive to and intolerant of those with beliefs other than yours? You think it's fine to denigrate their beliefs as well? Yet I don't doubt you expect those very people to be tolerant towards you. Very disappointing.
tracyanne

Sep 10, 2010
6:38 PM EDT
I expect nothing. This however is a Linux discussion board, I've been trying to gently hint, that it is not the place for religion, and if we are to have Jewish Holidays celebrated here, we must to be fair have Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu Shinto, Catholic, Anglican (where they differ) and every other religion. At some point this board will become so chock full of posting about religious holidays that it will no longer be about Linux.
jdixon

Sep 10, 2010
7:09 PM EDT
> ...even the calendar I'm using is inspired by yet another myth,

I wasn't aware that Pope Gregory XIII was a myth. You learn something every day.

Unless you're referring to the unattributed A.D. in your comment, of course, but that's another subject.

> ...if we are to have Jewish Holidays celebrated here...

No one was celebrating a Jewish Holiday, TA. Caitlyn was taking the opportunity to wish everyone here the equivalent of a "Happy New Year". There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. She might just as easily have used the Mayan calendar, given it's newsworthyness lately.
gus3

Sep 10, 2010
7:37 PM EDT
Happy St. Valentine's Day Happy St. Patrick's Day Merry Christmas Happy Easter Happy Chinese New Year

Are these objectionable here as well?
tracyanne

Sep 10, 2010
7:39 PM EDT
Quoting:I wasn't aware that Pope Gregory XIII was a myth


Don't be ridiculous you know which myth inspired the current calendar,

Quoting:No one was celebrating a Jewish Holiday, TA. Caitlyn was taking the opportunity to wish everyone here the equivalent of a "Happy New Year". There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. She might just as easily have used the Mayan calendar, given it's newsworthyness lately.


1/ If wishing someone a happy new is not a celebration of that event then I don't know what it is.

2/ I don't give a damn what religious event it is.

3/ So if we are going to do Jewish world view events, yes lets add all the other religions to the mix and have a post for each and every one of those. We can change the name of this board to MythXr.and discuss the merits of each world view while we're at it. We can all take turns throwing bulls blood on alters, waiving incense around bowing to mecca 5 times a day,, dancing naked in secret groves, comparing astrological signs, taking peyote and and wander the spirit world, and in general have a great time paying respect to million conflicting world views, based not on fact or evidence, but myth and legend and supported by faith.

hkwint

Sep 10, 2010
8:16 PM EDT
TA:

Some time ago, a bunch of people here at LXer liked the idea of celebrating whatever religious event happened that day / week. We liked the idea of wishing each other a happy XXXXX, no matter what XXXXX was. Think it was back in the time of Don Parris (or maybe the other famous T.A.?) Nobody objected back then, as TOS was not yet an issue those days.

Of course, you're right the forum will become messy if we have to celebrate 8000 days a year, but currently such is not the case, so nobody currently seems to have much problems with it. I'm happy with whatever Caitlyn wishes me, as long as its positive, and then I continue my day.
tracyanne

Sep 10, 2010
9:16 PM EDT
I really have nothing more to say, other than lets keep superstitious nonsense out of LXer
azerthoth

Sep 10, 2010
9:32 PM EDT
Actually TA the premise for the new year holidays predates the current religions celebrating them. They happen approx on solstices, which are of course natural events. The upcoming one is IIRC september 21'st which is the half way point between then longest day of the year and the shortest day of the year. Which is long and which is short dependent upon northern or southern hemisphere.

So what if a group of people has a different name for it or that the dates drift around a little bit due to observational errors or lack of leap year accounting in one form of calender or another.

[I have deleted several less than cordial closing comments, perhaps it's better if I just leave it polite]
jdixon

Sep 10, 2010
9:44 PM EDT
> ...if wishing someone a happy new is not a celebration of that event then I don't know what it is.

You're correct. You don't.

> ...other than lets keep superstitious nonsense out of LXer

There's nothing superstitious about wishing someone a good year, whatever day it might be.

Religious discussion is one thing. Wishing someone a good year is something else again, whatever trappings it may come in. If people from four different religions per day who happen to share an interest in FOSS choose to wish the others a good year, I see nothing wrong with it, and I doubt seriously it would hurt LXer in the least.

However, if wishings of good will are actually unacceptable on LXer, then I seriously need to reconsider whether I or my discussions belong here.

If tolerance isn't a two way street, I see no point in going down it.
tuxchick

Sep 10, 2010
10:00 PM EDT
Thank you Caitlyn, and the same back at you!

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