Yes, it is age and mental rigidity

Story: Gnome Shell Might Add Real Multiple DesktopsTotal Replies: 6
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Alcibiades

May 13, 2010
4:27 AM EDT
There is a UK program called Grumpy Old Men - there's another called Grumpy Old Women. Well, look at this little clip of how you are supposed to work with the new Gnome, and you'll instantly turn into one or the other.

Perhaps some people will love it. But try explaining how to use this to your Aunt Agatha. Or even, as we advance inexorably to Aunt Agatha status, try explaining to yourself!

We are moving to the time when it will be the minimalist DTEs for the more technical, and only xfce seems to be staying in one piece for the ordinary user, as with this, Gnome looks like its going down the KDE black hole.

Speaking as one who only just managed to get our very intelligent and capable secretary to think in terms of using virtual desktops on Gnome as it is. Another shocker the other day was when we were setting up a spreadsheet, and I had used an 'if' in it: surprised and a bit disconcerted: never used functions. But its not that people are stupid or incompetent at all, its just they do not think in these terms, and the trick is to acknowledge that, and help from that point of view.

After all, the first time I used lots of hand and power tools, I didn't have the background to understand what would work and what wouldn't. Its not too dissimilar.
tracyanne

May 13, 2010
4:55 AM EDT
I like the idea it's what I thought we were going to get with KDE4 (and which KDE3 scraped the surface of), but instead got less than what KDE3 had. I have two issues with GNOME shell ... the menu, which seems to done away with categories, thus making it more difficult to find your application, and the fact that the top panel cannot be set to auto hide. other than that it's really great on a netbook, and not bad at all on a full size laptop., if they add the ability to close a Desktop while there are open applications on it instead of having to m ove them to another desktop, it would be almost perfect.
bigg

May 13, 2010
5:22 AM EDT
Gnome Shell, at least to the extent I've played with it (not much for a reason) would make any non-Linux user run away really fast. It's a non-starter. It takes about an hour to navigate through and find anything on the menu. The current GNOME menu works well, and it works the way it is expected to work.

Personally, I think Ubuntu Netbook Edition is light years ahead of this. Even my wife, a dedicated Windows user who works on Linux from time to time, had to admit that Ubuntu is superior to Windows 7 on netbooks. She uses Ubuntu exclusively on the netbook (part of it is performance issues - Windows 7 is generally okay, but there are also a lot of times that you sit and wait, but mostly it is the very well designed interface).
AwesomeTux

May 13, 2010
7:29 AM EDT
Will I finally be able to rename files in "Open File" and "Save File" dialogs?

In all seriousness, I find it will be easier to explain to Grandmama. She only uses like 3-5 programs, which will all be right there in the left pane of the overview. I tell her "click on Activities" then click on Firefox. Simple. How it is now: Click on "Applications" then click on "Internet" then click on Firefox.
JaseP

May 13, 2010
10:50 AM EDT
I would be interested in seeing how well it integrates with compiz and Cairo-dock...

But as far as application menu simplicity is concerned,... you can (with the current Gnome) edit the menus to make it easier/quicker to get to your most commonly used apps, or even put them on the panel bar (or with docks like Cairo-dock, completely re-vamp your menu structure). The only real thing this adds, if you ask me, is being able to make each desktop unique... That's not something that a complete overhaul is worth,... to me, anyway. I do not even use desktop icons anymore. I've switched to a very tweaked Cairo-dock for menus, nautilus for folders, and only have 2-3 widgets on the screen (no pictures for a background either, just a 2 color gradient).
Sander_Marechal

May 13, 2010
3:48 PM EDT
Quoting:I do not even use desktop icons anymore.


Me neither. A year a go I would have loved the ability to put different files on different desktops. But then I started using a tiling window manager. The only times I now see my desktop is right after booting.
azerthoth

May 13, 2010
4:15 PM EDT
lets see, push a 2 or 3 key combination and get my app or wiggle the rat to a very specific location and still hit a button once or twice.

I'll take hotkeys over icons

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