Firefox and openSUSE.......and Chrome.
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| Ridcully May 06, 2010 11:34 PM EDT |
I am a dedicated openSUSE user, currently version 11 (at least until KDE4.5 is released, but that's a different story.) I wish to high heaven openSUSE would take a leaf out of what the writer of this article suggests: put in a respository so that Mozilla can do the updates automatically. One thing has been glaringly obvious to me for the past year.......The software team at openSUSE kept its users of openSUSE 11.0 on FireFox 3.0.x, despite the fact that version 3.5 had been out for several months. Finally, when Mozilla no longer updated version 3.0.x, the openSUSE team was forced to release version 3.5.9 for openSUSE 11, which is what I am using at the moment. And everyone else: on version 3.6....What IS it with the openSUSE team ? Is it that they have mangled the code of their native version of the Firefox browser so that it cannot be addressed by the vanilla versions from Mozilla ? I simply do not know. But I would love those automatic updates. openSUSE ver 11.0 is still a fine version and does everything I could wish for......but it would be so nice to see updates move a little faster sometimes. |
| TxtEdMacs May 07, 2010 7:49 AM EDT |
Well Open SuSE* is not alone:Quoting:Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.19) Gecko/2010040119 Ubuntu/8.04 (hardy) Firefox/3.0.19This is what happens when you use LTS** version of Ubuntu. One change may be coming where Firefox and at least one other major application will come with its own attached library (soon) allowing upgrades to the latest and greatest version. It also opens a Linux distribution to something akin to dll hell***. Currently applications have to use the libraries that come with the kernel version deployed****. YBT * Archaic version, however, I prefer it to the all upper case used now. ** Long Term Support *** As it is known in Windows where one application's library overwrites another's by just having the same name resulting in endless grief. **** I happen to like that just a few rapidly evolving applications are replaceable, but as the experience has shown with Windows it can become a nightmare. P.S. with tags leaning towards serious |
| jdixon May 07, 2010 10:04 AM EDT |
Txt: I believe you can download the latest version straight from Mozilla, install it in a directory your home folder, and use it instead. I've never tried it though. Yes, I'm in the same boat with my Dell Mini 9. It's 8.04, and there's no sign of Dell offering a supported update. I may have to do one manually in a few months and see what happens. |
| bigg May 07, 2010 10:34 AM EDT |
> I believe you can download the latest version straight from Mozilla, install it in a directory your home folder, and use it instead. I've done that many times. It's trivial and if you use the version supplied by Mozilla there are no dependencies. Waiting for distro packages is only necessary if for some reason you prefer their version. |
| hkwint May 07, 2010 1:28 PM EDT |
Download straight from Mozilla, install & run is what I explained in my article http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/133401/ under the heading 'Firefox 3.7 alpha 4' If you wrote a simple script to 'wget http:// releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/latest/linux-i686/en-US/*.tar.bz2 ' you could easily have automatic updates. |
| Steven_Rosenber May 07, 2010 1:46 PM EDT |
Is there a .deb repository for Mozilla? And how do you configure so Firefox is pulled from there instead of Ubuntu's repos? |
| krisum May 07, 2010 5:19 PM EDT |
@Steven For latest stable ffox use this ppa: [url=https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/ archive/firefox-stable]https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/ archive/firefox-stable[/url] It has ffox 3.6.x for all versions from hardy through lucid. Also is kind of "semi-official" in that the same team creates these packages so hopefully upgrade path (to next ubuntu version) will be smoother. |
| dumper4311 May 07, 2010 5:51 PM EDT |
@Ridcully: if you don't mind adding a new repository, you can have a new firefox: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_1... provides MozillaFirefox-3.6.3-1.1 as of today. Search for other packages (and repos) at: http://software.opensuse.org/search btw, I'm using openSUSE 11.2 with KDE 4.4.2 (soon to be 4.4.3) from the appropriate repos, and it's getting to where I don't feel too bad about losing kde 3.5.x anymore. |
| Ridcully May 07, 2010 6:11 PM EDT |
For jdixon........You are absolutely correct. For some time, I had FireFox 3.5 running in a workplace directory and apparently working perfectly in all respects. However it then interfered in some odd way with the workplace hidden files for Firefox 3.0.x (which apparently are a little different) and caused very odd problems. I wiped it and then had to remove and reinstall Firefox 3.0.x. However around November last year I got annoyed enough to give it another go and it worked brilliantly with Firefox 3.6, so that I just left Firefox 3.0.x out in the cold. Then to my surprise, that was somewhere (give a month or so) where openSUSE finally, **finally** got the message that the browser in openSUSE 11.0 needed upgrading and moved in the huge upswing to version 3.5.9 Since then, I have used it, although 3.6 still sits there if needed. Thanks dumper4311, I'll have a go at that repository. Your comments re KDE4 are interesting and tend to confirm some thoughts I have had for some time, especially since I have tried and loathed KDE4 to this point. I am waiting for one or both of two things: KDE4.5 and the next release of openSUSE (although the next release of openSUSE may only have KDE4.4). My perspective has been so far that openSUSE is one of the best KDE integrated distros around so if KDE4 is going to work as it should, that is where you will find it. In addition, I have always said that KDE4.5 would probably be the tipover point where KDE4 actually does work properly as far as a KDE3.5 user is concerned. That's personal and NOT intended to open a can of worms. I know openSUSE 11 is a bit ancient TxtEdMacs, but as Lord Vetinari's motto states: Si non confectus, non reficiat. That should appeal to you :-) And for them's as noticed the Chrome bit of the topic subject, I accidentally left it there when I was composing my first entry: I was going to mention that Chrome will not install on openSUSE 11.0...The reason ? Version 11 does not have lsb >= 3.2 I would assume this is because version 11 is now a bit antique as far as Google and others are concerned, even if it does work. Irritating but I can wait.......and I know the next upgrade of openSUSE will solve that simply because Google has released a version of Chrome specifically for openSUSE..... |
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