Leaping Lemmings isn't even out yet

Story: Ubuntu 10.10 Will Get A Global Menu By DefaultTotal Replies: 16
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caitlyn

Apr 27, 2010
10:36 PM EDT
Ubuntu Leaping Lemmings, sorry, umm... Lucid Lynx isn't even released yet and we're already getting hype about Maniacal Monkey, umm... Maverick Meerkat. It's another MaxOS X lookalike feature for netbooks. Wow! That should all make us switch to Ubuntu!
gus3

Apr 27, 2010
11:05 PM EDT
Hopefully, by the time we get to Rabid Rabbit or Stinky Skunk, this routine will have fallen by the wayside. (I'm too cynical to hope for it sooner.)
r_a_trip

Apr 28, 2010
6:36 AM EDT
I think it's time to start a donation fund to buy Mark S. a black turtleneck.
jacog

Apr 28, 2010
7:22 AM EDT
Well I am glad at least one Linux distro is getting some hype and attention that's noticed outside a closed community.

I wish more FOSS would do that. Firefox is doing a fairly decent job of it too.
gus3

Apr 28, 2010
10:36 AM EDT
Quoting:Well I am glad at least one Linux distro is getting some hype and attention that's noticed outside a closed community.
I suppose running it like Microsoft runs Windows will get it noticed.

"We're going to change this in the next release, because we know what's best for you."
jdixon

Apr 28, 2010
10:47 AM EDT
> I suppose running it like Microsoft runs Windows will get it noticed.

There is one big difference. Canonical isn't charging you $100 for the privilege of their making decisions for you.
tuxchick

Apr 28, 2010
11:01 AM EDT
Ew. I never did like the Mac menu or dock. If the menu were decent in the first place it wouldn't need the dock.

Even so, I'm with jacog. The more attention the better. Let Ubuntu be the gateway drug to real Linux! ;)

r_a_trip, have you notice how both Jobs and Shuttleworth have identical greasy 4-day stubble and fuzzcuts?
hkwint

Apr 28, 2010
12:18 PM EDT
139 articles on LXer mentioning '10.4' and it's not even out yet.

Seems Ubuntu is the next Apple, next thing you know and the release date of 10.10 will be kept secret.

Until MS (funny coincidence, those initials?) says: "Oh, and then there's one more thing". And they start suing people when the new location of the new 'magical revolutionary unbelivable-button' is leaked to Gizmodo. Yes, that day is coming my friends!
Steven_Rosenber

Apr 28, 2010
12:56 PM EDT
Ubuntu has managed to keep the hype going. I'm running 10.04 before release day for a number of not-the-greatest reasons, mostly due to my Debian Lenny/Squeeze and FreeBSD 7.3 installations pretty much blowing up on me. I had a machine that needed an OS, and 10.04 was there.

For an LTS, they're sure pushing on the number of changes vs. 9.10 - hopefully this will all hang together and be somewhat stable once we're a couple months past the release date.
caitlyn

Apr 28, 2010
3:30 PM EDT
Well, I'm doing my own beta testing: of RHEL 6. It' a free, public download this time around so there is no reason not to look what the next super-stable enterprise desktop and server distro will look like.
hkwint

Apr 28, 2010
6:40 PM EDT
Let's join the fanfare: I had Fedora 13 beta working on this PC. For me, it is the first Fedora (since I'm testing, 10 I believe) which works out of the box on my nvidia N43. I'm also happy to announce it's the first "distro with Xorg" which you can dd to USB and then 'works out of the box', in contrary to Ubuntu 9.10 and some Debian version I tried. In my opinion, the latter two just stink, as someone almost 'hardcoded' the requirement for a device under /dev in it which is just plain stupid.

I think I should tank the Xorg team for the depreciation of HAL, nv and xorg.conf in favour of udev and nouveau, which finally works for me in Xorg-server 1.8.

An important milestone if you'd ask me, as it marks the first time I had a 'xorg.conf-less' X running with nouveau, without me having to edit xorg.conf to run with VESA instead. Some real progress. I was a bit sad my USB stick was too 'tiny' to have a 'persistent storage', I'd like to fiddle with that. I'd like to have my persistent storage on a throw-away LVM partition, but I believe I may be the only one. Nonetheless, I like a challenge from time to time.

I was searching for some 'place' to tell the Fedora developers

"Hey, thanks, this works for me, this is my hardware .... .... ... and I'm glad it all worked, in contrary to the last few versions"

but sadly I can only find forums to ask for help, file bugreports, read manuals and FAQ. Nowhere to tell "Hey, this stuff works just like you people intended, fscking great!". A bit odd, they almost seem to expect it doesn't work while it just does.

Sadly, I can't find how Fedora does 'persistent storage' (I fiddled with ClicFS for OpenSuse, but that one is almost non-documented as well). As far as I know, union mounts etc. are neither ready for "prime time" at this moment, so I have to do some work I'm afraid. But nonetheless Fedora LiveUSB greeted me with a working KDE, Nouveau and Xorg out of the box, so there really is progress being made.
Steven_Rosenber

Apr 28, 2010
7:05 PM EDT
Fedora is supposedly either offering or getting ready to offer a way to boot and install over the Internet - not PXE boot but some other method that would eliminate the need for install media. Anybody know about this (and have a link where it's discussed)?
jacog

Apr 29, 2010
3:34 AM EDT
@Steven_Rosenber:

Just like the old days. In the days before Fedora, you used to be able to use an "install floppy" which would then install Red Hat from an online source. It was very convenient for me because the ISP of the college where I lectured had an up to date mirror.
r_a_trip

Apr 29, 2010
3:52 AM EDT
@TC r_a_trip, have you notice how both Jobs and Shuttleworth have identical greasy 4-day stubble and fuzzcuts?

Yep, I have. I think Mark S. look would be greatly improved with the mandatory/complementary black turtleneck.

Next year, we need to get him his own Reality Distortion Field.

@Jacog Well I am glad at least one Linux distro is getting some hype and attention that's noticed outside a closed community.

Be careful what you wish for. Most people won't associate Ubuntu with Linux. Haven't we all noticed the "How to do stuff with Ubuntu" articles, which could easily have been titled more accurately "How to do stuff with Linux"?

I can just envision the day "normal" GNU/Linux has to battle Windows, Mac OS X and Ubuntu.
jacog

Apr 29, 2010
4:07 AM EDT
r_a_trip: If you read my post, you will notice that my wish read as follows "I wish more FOSS would do that."
hkwint

Apr 29, 2010
10:36 AM EDT
Quoting:but some other method that would eliminate the need for install media.


How? I mean, after all, how does the MoBo know what to boot? It needs some drive / USB stick / network card to do so isn't it?

There are different existing solutions: TFTP, gPXE (sometimes you can install it on BIOS-flash), install from harddisk (where you write your ISO or the files on it to a harddisk and use syslinux to boot it), use LiveUSB instead of CD etc.
Steven_Rosenber

Apr 29, 2010
11:08 AM EDT
I just remember hearing somewhere about a service specific to Fedora that would allow booting of an ISO over the network. No idea about the particulars, and my own searches have turned up nothing, so maybe I'm imagining the whole thing.

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