I faint with excitement
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| Author | Content |
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| tuxchick Apr 03, 2010 5:09 PM EDT |
You have to admit, making a half-baked controversial change in an LTS release that nobody has really thought through is innovative, revolutionary, will excite and energize the computer-using public, and will topple Windows from its desktop dominance. I take back all the negative things I was thinking. |
| tuxchick Apr 03, 2010 5:12 PM EDT |
I forgot the other exciting innovation-- all that hard work, research, time, talent, and resources to make it look like a Mac! An amazing piece of work. |
| TxtEdMacs Apr 03, 2010 5:29 PM EDT |
tc, If you really think you are getting wobbly just thinking about Ubuntu 10.04, I would advise examining the possibility of a medical condition. For example, it might be no more than low blood sugar. So have a twinkie and see if that engenders the same elation. Like the former you may just be consuming another empty calorie snack. Better yet, suggest another distribution, e.g. mint? Regarding the latter, while hearing some good things, the one review I read was uninformative*. YBT * Speaking kindly, more like a fan review where the ignorance of the reviewer was too obvious. |
| tuxchick Apr 03, 2010 5:45 PM EDT |
MBT, last time I ate a Twinkie it transgendered elation. Had to scarf down a box of Ding Dongs to get back on track. Ubuntu has done much good for Linux overall. This business with "this is not a democracy", is a low blow considering all the "give us your feedback!" and kumbaya hype, and it's a for-profit distro fueled by unpaid volunteers and free code from all over, and all this agony over copying Mac is beyond silly. |
| Steven_Rosenber Apr 05, 2010 12:20 PM EDT |
Whatever Ubuntu can do to differentiate itself from both the Debian project on which it's based and from every other operating system, free or not, can either help or harm Ubuntu itself. If the design, whatever code Ubuntu adds that isn't submitted/accepted/wanted upstream, and whatever profit-generating services (Ubuntu One, MP3 purchasing service, paid support) bring a substantial audience to the distribution and company behind it, the whole thing will be seen as a great success and a share-grabber from Microsoft and Apple. Remember - in the high-end desktop and laptop space, Apple has quite a bit of share, and the prospect of gaining a Mac-like experience on a cheaper machine is something that has quite a bit of potential value. Again, it's the delicate and perhaps impossible balance between hard-core open-source users and the unwashed masses still using Windows and Mac OS who barely know that desktop Linux exists. Do what you can to attract new users, but if you anger the core, volunteer developers and (I'll borrow from the Apple world) evangelists will fall off. While the whole purple-with-left-side-buttons thing is the very definition of tempest in a teapot, Shuttleworth, again either erred or cleverly triumphed by doing this in the last month before an LTS release that will carry Ubuntu through at least the next year and a half. As perhaps many of you, I think the Mac interface is good but not great, and if you're used to certain functionality in Linux, you find Mac OS and the proprietary nature of it lacking in many respects. But design-wise, many open-source projects have spent the past decade copying Windows. Copying Mac OS X is at least somewhat evolutionary. If Shuttleworth and Ubuntu can deal with multimedia a whole lot better - and that "music store" is an attempt - and get a bunch of preload deals done (I haven't seen that happening, but maybe I just missed it), the distro can continue its rise. For the rest of us, we'll always have Debian and (fill in the blank). |
| caitlyn Apr 05, 2010 1:07 PM EDT |
I'm still trying to figure out why an experienced Linux user would even care. If the default is left but you prefer right then you change it. No big deal, right? Besides, experienced Linux users may not choose GNOME (the Ubuntu default) but go with Kubuntu or Xubuntu or Lubuntu or flavor-of-the-month-buntu anyway. Tempest in a teapot is an understatement. This just makes the community, or at least the community around Ubuntu, seem silly. I still run Ubuntu on my netbook but I seem to have settled on SalixOS as the right answer for my work environment on my 64-bit desktop. I need to play with it on the netbook as well. That way I can watch all the Ubuntu hype and squabbling and just chuckle... |
| Steven_Rosenber Apr 05, 2010 3:30 PM EDT |
I guess I'm an "experienced user," and at present I'm using GNOME at least half the time. I'm just not a KDE person, although at this point I'm liking Kwrite and Kate better than gEdit. But Nautilus is working fine for me, and I still prefer gThumb to digiKam. Not that you can't mix KDE and GNOME apps in a single installation, but I tend not to. |
| hkwint Apr 05, 2010 11:31 PM EDT |
Quoting:but go with Kubuntu or Xubuntu or Lubuntu or flavor-of-the-month-buntu anyway H*ll yeah, that's what's going to be in the right corner! The button 'change here to the Ubuntu flavour of the month!" Thumbs up for the best idea so far Caitlyn! |
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