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| softwarejanitor Feb 19, 2010 5:15 PM EDT |
Is trying to spin things so they aren't the bad guy. Tough luck with that Ballmer & Co... Nothing has really changed even though Google has managed to carve out a niche. Make no mistake that Microsoft still the 800lb Gorilla of the industry, and they are still using unethical if not outright illegal means to extend their monopoly power to anything they can get their grubby fingers on. |
| Bob_Robertson Feb 19, 2010 5:30 PM EDT |
Never confuse my disagreement with the _legal_ prosecution of Microsoft with any kind of tolerance of their reprehensible actions and policies. Microsoft, the corporation, must fail. Preferably from complete repudiation of their business tactics. |
| jdixon Feb 19, 2010 5:35 PM EDT |
> Microsoft, the corporation, must fail. Preferably from complete repudiation of their business tactics. A complete change in management at Microsoft, with new management which did repudiate those tactics, would be acceptable. |
| bigg Feb 19, 2010 5:47 PM EDT |
> A complete change in management at Microsoft, with new management which did repudiate those tactics, would be acceptable. Maybe, but I don't see it happening. Microsoft doesn't bring much else to the table in terms of making a profit. |
| softwarejanitor Feb 19, 2010 7:09 PM EDT |
> Maybe, but I don't see it happening. Microsoft doesn't bring much else to the table in terms of making a profit. If it hadn't been for luck, Bill's mom's connections and cutthroat unethical and/or illegal business practices Microsoft would never have become a major player in the industry. They;d have been nothing more than a footnote, if not forgotten entirely. |
| Bob_Robertson Feb 19, 2010 9:16 PM EDT |
> Bill's mom's connections Don't forget that daddy is an estate lawyer. Very good at tax shelters, tax avoidance, contracts, all that rot. |
| phsolide Feb 20, 2010 2:11 PM EDT |
Even if new management comes in, repudiates all former tactics and techniques, MSFT the Corporate Entity (!) has a huge "war chest" of cash. European aristocratic families with a lot less money caused decades or centuries of pain in Europe. What will the ongoing legacy of MSFT be? |
| jdixon Feb 20, 2010 3:28 PM EDT |
> Microsoft doesn't bring much else to the table in terms of making a profit. Currently, that's true. However, Microsoft actually is fairly good at making heavily integrated systems with easy to understand workflow. That's essential what Office has become. There's a huge market for such systems, especially in business, and Microsoft could still make a lot of money catering to it. They wouldn't be what they are now, but they could be a successful and profitable company. What they're not any good at is making a general purpose OS. Far better to leave that to Linux and Apple and write the applications for businesses to use. |
| techiem2 Feb 20, 2010 3:58 PM EDT |
I still think they should turn Windows into a proprietary X server that would run on any *nix and have complete compatibility with the APIs, directX, etc. Then you could run xorg/xfree on one session for "real work" and WindowsX on another session for those games and few apps that refuse to realize that there is a world outside of Windows. Of course, that would never happen, partly for technical reasons I suppose, and partly because that would finally be admitting that their ground-up OS really wasn't all that great after all and really does need something better below it. |
| phsolide Feb 20, 2010 4:00 PM EDT |
Quoting: heavily integrated systems with easy to understand workflow. That's essential what Office has become. There's a huge market for such systems, especially in business, Tsk, tsk. Large business, corporate business, does not want easy-to-understand workflows. If they had those, then thousands of gatekeeper-type employees (SCM specialists, "Lifecycle Management" specialists, etc etc) would be unneccessary. Managers and directors could not build empires, poach each other's direct reports, and demand extra headcount to deal with source code control, the Process Du Jour (ISO 9000, CMM Level N, XP, TQM, Quality Circles) and other bizarrely over-elaborate workflows. Oh, and don't forget the contractors that come in to set up the over-elaborate workflows in the first place, and stay around to deal with the inevitable crashes and collapses. Think kickbacks when you hear about a contractor doing gatekeeper/process work. |
| jdixon Feb 20, 2010 4:22 PM EDT |
> Large business, corporate business, does not want easy-to-understand workflows. Perhaps not, but small business who can't afford that level of expense do. |
| Bob_Robertson Feb 20, 2010 5:10 PM EDT |
I've said before that I think a Microsoft-made "WINE-like" shell with complete (well, you know, after a few service packs anyway) implementation of the APIs that ran on X, Mac, Linux, etc, would sell really well. For all those legacy apps. $25 by credit card on the Microsoft home page, must be online to activate, etc etc, I mean people would buy that. If only they had made Office for Linux, BSD, etc., back when Office was new, they would have had the lock on "office" sales for a century. But NooooOOOooooo, they had to be avericious. Averitious. Avaritiouus. Greedy in a bad way. |
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