define "success"
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| helios Feb 06, 2010 2:43 AM EDT |
Building on the success of its first contest, the Linux Foundation has announced the launch of a second "We're Linux" video contest... And aside from youtube and Linux websites, tell me how this contest and it's content is going to impact the general computing public. Are these videos going to be seen by people who have never heard of Linux? Are they going to be seen on mainstream television? It's a redundant question... Never mind. h |
| azerthoth Feb 06, 2010 4:02 AM EDT |
You would think they would put a penguin on an indy car or something. Oh wait ... |
| helios Feb 06, 2010 11:31 AM EDT |
You would think they would put a penguin on an indy car or something. Oh wait ... LOL...outrageous! |
| Scott_Ruecker Feb 06, 2010 2:25 PM EDT |
Good one Azer..lol, |
| dinotrac Feb 06, 2010 2:32 PM EDT |
Shame on you guys. Sure, Ken wants people to learn about Linux and to enjoy reaping its benefits, but... won't that spoil our little club? |
| tuxchick Feb 06, 2010 2:45 PM EDT |
Like totally true dino. Like when all the wrong people discovered Nirvana and then Curt Cobain killed himself. See what happens? |
| dinotrac Feb 06, 2010 3:45 PM EDT |
TC - Kurt Cobain lives, and not with Elvis because the whole white bell-bottom jumpsuit thing is not his style. Unfortunately, the whole secrete recluse thing has been tough on him. He's ballooned up to 532 pounds from lack of exercise compounded by a Ding-Dongs and beer diet. In the absence of teen spirit, he smells mainly of cheap spirits. |
| tuxchick Feb 06, 2010 4:52 PM EDT |
So being discovered by the wrong people is even worse than I thought! |
| dinotrac Feb 06, 2010 8:20 PM EDT |
Yup. |
| gus3 Feb 06, 2010 8:27 PM EDT |
Would you rather be discovered by Michael Ovitz, or Rick the used car salesman? |
| montezuma Feb 06, 2010 10:37 PM EDT |
Come as you are, as you were
As I want you to be Sounds perfect TC |
| azerthoth Feb 07, 2010 1:25 AM EDT |
Never did really get the grunge thing. 'I'm a teen. I'm depressed, the world is a dark and dreary place. Nobody loves me, everybody hates me, I'm gonna go eat worms' Theres a real no **** sherlock, every teen that ever lived went through that. I was more the rebellious type, Ted Nugent, Kiss, with the 'Party till ya drop and have a blast, because otherwise the world is a dark and dreary place, and that just sucks.' |
| Scott_Ruecker Feb 07, 2010 2:35 AM EDT |
With you Azer, just replace your bands with Van Halen, Iron Maiden and Metallica and we are on our way..;-) |
| DiBosco Feb 07, 2010 7:30 AM EDT |
The Grunge genre of music didn't have to be fully embraced to appreciate some of the music though. In the same way that I love the Who, the Kinks and The Jam, but I was never a Mod, there were some fabulous Grunge albums such as Pearl Jam's Ten and, even though it's possibly not cool to admit it, Nirvana's Nevermind. I was never depressed and I was no longer a teen in the early 90s, but sometimes great music is just great music, no matter the genre. |
| dinotrac Feb 07, 2010 12:14 PM EDT |
Don't know. I just try to avoid anything that rhymes with "unge". |
| Scott_Ruecker Feb 07, 2010 12:18 PM EDT |
My only issue with Nirvana is I absolutely REFUSE to feel sorry for, or worship people who off themselves. Suicide is just a fatal attempt to get attention as far as I am concerned. Find me one person on the planet who hasn't had to go through some rough times in their life and I find you a bold faced liar, or one heck of a pampered buffoon. ;-) |
| Bob_Robertson Feb 07, 2010 3:20 PM EDT |
> or one heck of a pampered buffoon. Interesting that the pampered buffoons kill themselves too, for such awful life-threatening stresses as having to go without TV or computer. "Awful" is subjective. The things that make "my life is awful" for me would hardly bother someone else. Which is the logical corollary of the very rational statement, "You don't want someone else's problems". Sometimes the very best thing you can do is leave people alone. |
| Sander_Marechal Feb 08, 2010 4:17 AM EDT |
Quoting:Suicide is just a fatal attempt to get attention as far as I am concerned. Perhaps he simply misunderstood quantum immortality: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality |
| tracyanne Feb 08, 2010 4:52 AM EDT |
Quoting:Suicide is just a fatal attempt to get attention as far as I am concerned. You are wrong. Attention seekers rarely top themselves. Those who see no point in continuing choose a method that is guaranteed to work |
| hkwint Feb 08, 2010 9:06 AM EDT |
Quoting:tell me how this contest and it's content is going to impact the general computing public Not at all. Even on a Linux-oriented website, people rather discuss grunge and suicide it seems. Says about everything how interesting Windows - users will find these vids. Some of these vids are rather good though, but they're all separate, they miss a common 'style' / template. So if the best of these vids were aired, people would only be confused: "If these people can't create a coherent advertizing vids campaign, then they surely can't create a coherent ecosystem around the software they write". And I hate to admit, but actually they're right. The Linux ecosystem is not coherent at all (divergent would be a better way to put it), while the success of Apple shows 'coherence' is what people ask for. No matter if it comes with DRM and a dictator or not. So here's a better idea: Instead of making / discussing these vids and doing efforts to promote Linux and to advocate freedom (nobody listens), just let the whole world go 'yada' with the closed Apple ecosystem. Advocate DRM / ACTA/Disney instead. Then the whole world (and not only the tiny few concerned) will suffer from their lack of freedom, a 'dark age' computer era arrives, and they will find out the hard way. Best part of all of this: No effort required, Apple will do it for us. We just have to keep quiet and watch the show. Of course, write your memoires as of now and predict the 'dark age computer era'. After it's over, people will interview you on TV and will be happy to publish any other bogus-predictions you make and pay for it, because after all your predictions became truth in the past. I'm pretty sure a new dark-era will lead to some new grunge songs and suicide attempts as well. My sister tried to kill her iPod nano with a hammer and almost went insane when she found out the amount of bogus Apple-cruft iTunes installed on her PC, so you see how frustrated people become when using Apple products. Shortly we'll have grunge from 'Apple in Chains', and their logo is already done ( http://farm1.static.flickr.com/45/162461886_2d9b7f0207.jpg of course ). What grunge tells about Apple users: "You can't understand a users mind, try with your books and degrees. If you let yourself go and open your mind ,you'd be using like me" Some other great Grunge band who just discovered iTunes told: "Look on the bright side is suicide". Some other great Grunge band were really glad they were 'still alive' after discovering iTunes. So you see, let Apple, Disney, MPAA and RIAA do their thing and we will have another grunge era. When that dark era is over I'm pretty sure the Grandfather of grunge will sing again about "Rockin in a free world". |
| jacog Feb 08, 2010 9:33 AM EDT |
Here's an idea. For many reasons, Linux and free software in general are difficult things to market. So difficult, in fact, that it would make an awesome case study and challenge for advertising/marketing students. Hand it over to advertising schools to include as a standard excercise for those students. I'm sure it'd be more interesting to them than "How Photoshop became a verb" or whatever else they study there. |
| helios Feb 08, 2010 1:24 PM EDT |
jacog...that is a brilliant idea. Anyone want to help me solicit or approach said schools/departments to make it happen? We wouldn't actually ask them to do the marketing...just analyze the major problems in doing so. h |
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