Red Hat Licensing point is murky.
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| dthacker Feb 04, 2010 4:37 PM EDT |
I have several Red Hat licenses at $work. We give them money and they give us updates, support, and a nifty tool that tells us if patches are available. I'm not sure what applications the author is talking about. BTW, Canonical's support costs are within a few dollars of Red Hat for the base subscriptions. Red Hat does charge extra to support virtualization. It's not clear from Canonical's site if virtualization is supported under the server license. IMO, the biggest boost for Ubuntu would be if Oracle certified Ubuntu server. Don't think that's happened yet. Dave |
| herzeleid Feb 04, 2010 6:40 PM EDT |
I work at a fortune 100 company where the IT infrastructure runs on SLES. We originally ran redhat but switched in 2004, and have been happy with the change. However, over the past couple of years I've gotten interested in ubuntu, and migrated my own small shop and several small businesses from opensuse or SLES to ubuntu LTS server. I'm been quite impressed with the lean, mean install footprint, the ease of package management, and the overall performance and stability. We could move all the basic unix infrastructure services at the fortune 100 firm from SLES to ubuntu and it would be a win - the problem is that we can't move our Oracle servers from SLES to ubuntu, and management seems pretty adamant about the "one flavor only" mantra. So, Oracle is the only real obstacle to bringing in ubuntu in a wholesale replacement of SLES here. I remain hopeful over the long term. You may laugh at me, you may call me a dreamer, but: I remember calling up Oracle one day in 1998 to ask about linux support (yeah right, HAHA) and got straight-armed, but a few days later I was at the Bastille day "Future of Linux" event in Santa Clara where Oracle folk lurked in the overflow crowd, and they got an earful. What they saw and heard there helped turn the tide, and shortly afterwards, Oracle came out in support of Linux. Even Oracle can change, if things become obvious enough, and so, migration to ubuntu (or possibly debian) remains a long term, back burner goal for me. |
| gus3 Feb 04, 2010 8:01 PM EDT |
"one flavor only" -> monoculture -> malware playground |
| herzeleid Feb 04, 2010 9:16 PM EDT |
Quoting: "one flavor only" -> monoculture -> malware playgroundThat definitely applies to windoze shops. Not sure how applicable that is to linux, certainly not to the same extent as windoze. But it is a popular meme that I could use to gain acceptance for the idea of more than one flavor of linux. If we could run the generic unix infrastructure services on ubuntu or debian, and run Oracle on SLES I'd be happy with that state of affairs for now. |
| gus3 Feb 04, 2010 10:18 PM EDT |
In the case of a Red Hat release (well, any distro, really), the more systems with full installations and default services, the more systems with vulnerability set X. Which RH release had that awful worm/botnet in 2000? Imagine an entire shop with just one release, all getting PWN3Z0R3D through a zero-day in a matter of minutes. |
| tuxchick Feb 04, 2010 10:35 PM EDT |
gus, can't you find an example less than ten years old? I doubt that a Linux monoculture would be very vulnerable, because it doesn't have the mechanisms that Windows (and the whole MS application stack) does to share and spread malware. |
| gus3 Feb 05, 2010 12:05 AM EDT |
I used that example, because it's one I had to clean up. |
| herzeleid Feb 05, 2010 5:43 PM EDT |
@gus3 - was that the dns worm? I seem to recall cleaning up after a dns vulnerability around that time frame. In fact, I cleaned up a server for a friend of a friend, which led to me getting a very nice linux side gig. |
| gus3 Feb 05, 2010 8:25 PM EDT |
IIRC, it was an FTP privilege escalation vulnerability. |
| tuxchick Feb 05, 2010 9:44 PM EDT |
gus, maybe the moral is "When your only tool is a mop, everything looks like a mess." I will now punish myself for feeble attempt at humor. |
| gus3 Feb 05, 2010 9:59 PM EDT |
How about some mop-based inspiration? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9W-smdTVjA |
| herzeleid Feb 06, 2010 2:42 AM EDT |
Ah, UHF - one of my favorite movies.... A cult classic! |
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