"Time to ditch Windows for online banking and shopping"
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| henke54 Oct 15, 2009 8:10 AM EDT |
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes : Quoting:It’s time to ditch Windows for online banking and shopping.http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=5813 |
| gus3 Oct 15, 2009 8:45 AM EDT |
Too bad he had to qualify his final point. "For either banking or online shopping" may be true enough, but the reality is "for anything on the Internet." Also, check out his updates in the column. He responds to the M$ fanbois. Part serious, part "oh puh-LEEZ!". |
| Bob_Robertson Oct 15, 2009 8:46 AM EDT |
I'll go two steps further and denounce the use of Windows at all. Sadly, a phishing scheme will work regardless of the OS, since it's the mind of the user that is tricked and not the machine. |
| jacog Oct 15, 2009 9:47 AM EDT |
Yarrr Bob, often the blame for things get horribly misplaced. A number of years ago a user's bank account was emptied because his/her PC had a keylogger on it. The entire focus of the blame was on the bank with who he banked, not the unsecure operating system he used. |
| henke54 Oct 15, 2009 1:05 PM EDT |
Idea : Post an email to your 'bank-headquarter' with these washingtonpost/zdnet links and with the suggestion of ....since the 'new-year-gifts-to-customers-period' nears... ; a cheap linux(ubuntu)-banking-usb-stick or a live-CD to give to their customers as a holidays-gift..... ;-) |
| jdixon Oct 15, 2009 1:48 PM EDT |
> I'll go two steps further and denounce the use of Windows at all. Yes, his first sentence would be far more true if he simply stopped after the first five words. Use Windows solely for those legacy applications where you have to use it. Use Linux or a Mac for everything else. |
| montezuma Oct 15, 2009 4:32 PM EDT |
The basic point is a read only OS. Funny how there are no Windows livecds ;-) |
| gus3 Oct 15, 2009 4:42 PM EDT |
Not in the sense of a downloadable or purchase-able LiveCD, but apparently it isn't totally outside the realm of possibility: http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13008 |
| tracyanne Oct 15, 2009 5:25 PM EDT |
I just posted the following to my bank.Quoting:Given that the majority of security breaches occur on the user's computer (always when running Microsoft Windows), what is your comment regarding the following advice from this Washington Post technical column blogger, with respect to his suggestion that we use Linux. |
| caitlyn Oct 15, 2009 5:33 PM EDT |
Actually, live CDs aren't all that great a solution either if you store data on your hard drive. That hard drive is still read/write, not read only. Many live CDs become outdated quickly, leaving the user with a known password (or no password), possibly running as root, with older apps with known security vulnerabilities. A live CD is no panacea though it's certainly true you can't install a keylogger to it. Better solution: Linux, BSD, or MacOS properly secured and patched. Oh, and it's high past time Windows was abandoned. Some people are just waking up now but it's been bad for about forever. |
| henke54 Oct 15, 2009 5:37 PM EDT |
Australian police :
Quoting:Detective Inspector Bruce van der Graaf from the Computer Crime Investigation Unit told the hearing that he uses two rules to protect himself from cybercriminals when banking online.http://www.itnews.com.au/News/157767,nsw-police-dont-use-win... |
| montezuma Oct 15, 2009 6:50 PM EDT |
Good onya Bruce! |
| hkwint Oct 15, 2009 8:04 PM EDT |
Hmm, why does nobody mention the security of the online banking system provided by the bank? Some of them - providing static passwords by paper post which have to be entered in the same order as shown on paper - are far more insecure than other ones - like using security tokens with one-time passwords etc. |
| jdixon Oct 15, 2009 11:50 PM EDT |
> The basic point is a read only OS. Funny how there are no Windows livecds ;-) http://ubcd4win.com/ It's very useful if you're stuck working on Windows machines. |
| Steven_Rosenber Oct 16, 2009 1:41 AM EDT |
Of course my credit card company, Citibank, doesn't allow its Web site to be accessed from any Web browser in Linux. You have to use a Mac or PC. Bet you can guess how many times I've used that card since I figured this out. |
| hkwint Oct 16, 2009 4:06 AM EDT |
Well, last time I looked Citi was "almost bankrupt", so their business model is flawed anyway. |
| henke54 Oct 16, 2009 4:09 AM EDT |
Randy Abrams
Director of Technical Education from ESET :
http://www.eset.com/threat-center/blog/2009/10/14/windows-on... ESET,... isn't that a firm which makes antivirus-software for windoze??????.....hmmmmm Also...Michael Horowitz said : Quoting:In my opinion, people should not conduct online banking from Windows machines. As I've written elsewhere, I feel the safest approach is booting to Linux to run Firefox.http://blogs.computerworld.com/14882/being_alert_about_onlin... |
| bigg Oct 16, 2009 6:04 AM EDT |
@Steven: All you have to do is adjust user agent switcher to identify as Internet Explorer. It's shocking that they would try to enforce a strict policy of, "Only the world's least secure browser" but it's only on the login page. All credit card companies make Microsoft look like a gift from heaven, so I won't single out Citi for hatred. |
| herzeleid Oct 16, 2009 3:41 PM EDT |
Quoting:All credit card companies make Microsoft look like a gift from heaven, so I won't single out Citi for hatred.I would. Seriously, I've been banking online for years with a number of organizations and I've always used linux. Currently using firefox for credit union transactions, and for credit card payments and such. |
| hkwint Oct 16, 2009 4:01 PM EDT |
Quoting:It's shocking that they would try to enforce a strict policy of, "Only the world's least secure browser" Believe me, I encountered this in real life and I was told they did it because the browser I used (FF) was not as secure as IE. This was in the IE6 days. Needless to say that was also the bank with the least safe method of internet banking (consecutive TAN-codes needed to transfer money, TAN-codes sent by regular postal mail). I was glad when I didn't need to 'maintain' that account anymore. |
| caitlyn Oct 21, 2009 1:44 AM EDT |
FWIW, the recent security articles have finally convinced my Mom, who has used Linux successfully before, to go to Linux pretty much full time. I'll be doing a fresh install on her laptop come Thanksgiving holiday when I visit her. It was also helpful that I could reassure her that the software her university uses does have a Linux client or else is web based and will work just fine. At 71 she's semi-unretired again and teaching two classes at the University this semester. She enjoys teaching so more power to her :) |
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