Actually, he's not quite right
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| Author | Content |
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| caitlyn Aug 14, 2009 6:00 PM EDT |
A while back I ran into a distro, I forget which, where I typed vi and the filename at the command line and was told that vi didn't exist. That distro had nano loaded by default and no vi. visudo worked but it launched nano. I wish I could remember which distro that was. I've used vi for years and years and it is standard on MOST forms of *nix, but not all Linux distros as the author claims. |
| azerthoth Aug 14, 2009 7:11 PM EDT |
I know that nano ships default on Gentoo, I cant remember if vi does as well, nano being my prefered. |
| Steven_Rosenber Aug 14, 2009 7:17 PM EDT |
Puppy Linux doesn't ship with vi. And back when I used Puppy, crontab tried to load vi as its editor ... and hence didn't work. Instead, to set up cron jobs, the Puppy developers wanted you to use a graphical application -- the name of which escapes me -- for which there was almost no documentation (as opposed to tons for visudo). I could never get it to work. |
| gus3 Aug 14, 2009 7:36 PM EDT |
Vi on Slackware exists only as a symlink, by default to Elvis. |
| Steven_Rosenber Aug 14, 2009 7:42 PM EDT |
The whole "what really happens when I type 'vi' at the console" thing is confusing. My understanding: Most BSDs symlink vi to nvi, the "bug for bug" copy of the original vi Most Linux distros symlink vi to vim, an editor that looks and acts just like vi but had additional features Of course in those BSDs, you are free to install vim, and in the Linuxes you can install nvi ... So depending on how you feel about all things vi, it's the best of both worlds (or the worst of times). I personally had a nano fascination, but what brought me back to vi was the way text stays on the screen even if you don't wrap it. If you don't wrap text in nano, you can't see it all, but if you do wrap it, those linefeeds stay in the file. ... So I prefer the not-wrapped vi-type way text is displayed on the screen. |
| caitlyn Aug 14, 2009 8:09 PM EDT |
vim, nvi, and elvis are all vi compatible and have all the vi functionality plus some of their own added on top. nano, OTOH, is not vi compatible. What I should have said was that the distro in question didn't have vi or anything compatible with vi. You guys are keeping me honest. |
| hkwint Aug 16, 2009 5:44 PM EDT |
Quoting:I know that nano ships default on Gentoo, I cant remember if vi does as well Gentoo requires virtual/editor to be installed, and in the ebuild, "nano" is mentioned before vim. If you delete 'nano' from the ebuild file, 'system' will be built with 'vim' instead of 'nano'. So you're correct, Gentoo doesn't come with vim by default. |
| caitlyn Aug 17, 2009 12:49 AM EDT |
Hans, thank you. I did some work for AIG in 2004-05 and some of their sysadmins had installed Gentoo, much to management's chagrin. I had to support it. It was, indeed, Gentoo that had no vi. I hate Gentoo. The vi issue was a relatively small one. Having to compile all the updates.... |
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