No Flash for PowerPC Linux
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| Steven_Rosenber Jul 01, 2009 5:41 PM EDT |
If you think Flash has any redeeming qualities, having a closed-source app that by virtue of free distribution has dominated Web video, and having the company that produces it decline to release a version for Linux on PowerPC (or for ANY BSD on any architecture) shows the peril of relying on such technologies. Adobe still supports Flash for Mac OS 9 on PowerPC but won't throw PowerPC Linux users a bone. "Shameful" isn't the right word. I wish Gnash worked better ... And I'm eagerly awaiting whatever open video solutions come from HTML 5 http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html |
| chalbersma Jul 01, 2009 7:40 PM EDT |
Amen |
| hkwint Jul 01, 2009 8:59 PM EDT |
Steven: Here https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform and here: http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/prcontacts.jsp |
| jdixon Jul 01, 2009 9:04 PM EDT |
> Here ... and here I suspect they'll listen about as well as Intuit does. :( |
| hkwint Jul 01, 2009 9:34 PM EDT |
What a coincidence. I was just contemplating how to change political behaviour, amongst others because of this thread. When I was small (before I started losing hair... Wait, that was the other thread, but I already forgot) we used to send letters to foreign governments to addresses I nor anyone else on my continent could pronounce. It was for Amnesty International. Sure, they had efforts worldwide and the volunteers were not freeriders, they actually spent money on quite expensive stamps. Most governments listen as well as Intuit does, however, some political prisoners were 'freed'. Maybe - if enough bags of mail arrive at Adobe - the political prisoner Flash will be freed. However, the example of Amnesty clearly shows these letters have to be physical paper in order to make real bags full of mail arrive at the front door. Last time I sent 10 IT-companies a letter, six of them confirmed they got the question and four answered. So who knows... Problem is, you can find some people to send physical letters to governments, at least to make them receive one bag a month or so. To IT companies however, I'm afraid it will be hard to find people considering the issue worth the stamp. |
| Steven_Rosenber Jul 02, 2009 5:08 PM EDT |
While it pisses me off and makes my PowerPC hardware less effective with Linux and all hardware less effective with OpenBSD FreeBSD and NetBSD, it really illustrates the risk we take in relying on a proprietary standard to create and distribute content on the open Internet. Can you imagine if TCP/IP, HTML or CSS were such closed technologies? How would the World Wide Web ever developed if we all didn't have free access to the basic tools required to create and disseminate content? Audio is bad enough with the encumbered formats MP3, AAC and WMA, and having video held hostage with Quicktime and Flash? It's terrible. Proprietary end-user applications are one thing, but content that can only be created and viewed on the hardware a company so chooses and at prices only it sets? Terrible. That's why I wholeheartedly applaud efforts to bring free, open formats to multimedia not just to FOSS operating systems but to every platform. |
| tuxtom Jul 02, 2009 5:56 PM EDT |
Quoting:it really illustrates the risk we take in relying on a proprietary standardWhich pretty much describes relying on proprietary (and obsolete) Apple PowerPC hardware... |
| tracyanne Jul 02, 2009 6:16 PM EDT |
Quoting:t really illustrates the risk we take in relying on a proprietary standard to create and distribute content on the open Internet. Which is why I think those capable of doing so would be better employed building a Free and Open media stack, including applications of the Silverlight/Flash genre, and the tools that anyone with the nouse it takes to build Silverlight/Flash content/applications, can use with a minimum of extra effort. But that's just me, and I'm probably barking up the wrong tree. |
| Steven_Rosenber Jul 02, 2009 11:09 PM EDT |
Quoting:Which pretty much describes relying on proprietary (and obsolete) Apple PowerPC hardware... Looks like Adobe gave up on Mac OS 9 finally: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ re: proprietary hardware ... I'm about ready to chuck the PowerPC hardware into the bin ... |
| gus3 Jul 03, 2009 12:03 AM EDT |
@Steven: If it's capable of running Linux in any form (except MkLinux), I'll take it off your hands. I'm not interested in turning it into a desktop system; I just want it for the geek-curiosity. Oh yeah, it also needs to have a CD-ROM drive, since that's the only sure way I have to get Linux on it. |
| jdixon Jul 03, 2009 12:26 AM EDT |
> I'm about ready to chuck the PowerPC hardware into the bin ... Doesn't Yellow Dog still support the PowerPC? |
| Steven_Rosenber Jul 03, 2009 1:38 AM EDT |
I've had quite a bit of success with my Mac G4/466 and Debian Etch. Probably one of the easiest installs/configurations I've ever done. About the only problem I had was making the box keep its ALSA settings. I had to tweak rc.local to make it happen. A great box with Debian, but no Flash ... |
| Sander_Marechal Jul 03, 2009 2:01 AM EDT |
I have an iMac G3 that I expanded to 384 MB RAM. Debian Lenny runs fine on it, although a tad slow. It's perfectly usable though. |
| chalbersma Jul 04, 2009 12:11 AM EDT |
This is why I'm pumped for HTML5 |
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