Does anyone know if these codecs are already implemented...

Story: Google Considerations: OGG Theora or H.264? Total Replies: 8
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chalbersma

Jun 16, 2009
6:23 PM EDT
Does anyone know if these codecs are already implemented in any browser. And if so if there are any pages that I can test it out on?
hkwint

Jun 16, 2009
7:15 PM EDT
Quoting:And if so if there are any pages that I can test it out on?


http://www.youtube.com/html5 for h.264 I assume. http://openvideo.dailymotion.com/ for ogg theora

Firefox 3.5 offers support for OGG Theora. https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Using_audio_and_video_in_Fi...

Quoting:"The tag is supported in Google Chrome 3.0.182.2, a developer version currently in the works."
http://www.softsailor.com/news/3787-3787.html

Quoting:Opera have experimented with Ogg Theora/Vorbis and the latest test builds seem to include support for Ogg Theora/vorbis, even if I'm going by anecdotal evidence here.


13-06-09; http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-Jun...

Some interesting notes made in the list:

Quicktime-support for Xiph-formats such as theora could be added if Apple finally adds it to QuickTime Components, which they have been asked to do for four years now. http://www.apple.com/quicktime/resources/components.html

Support for old MS-browsers could be provided if someone made an ActiveX applet that supports theora, or another way is to develop a low level Flash-app that supports theora and runs inside the Flash-plugin (v9 or v10) in IE.

This latter two statements - about IE / MS means Microsoft doesn't have to be a hindrance if enough money is thrown at theora.
hkwint

Jun 16, 2009
8:55 PM EDT
In fact, I liked the question so much that I just tried Opera 9.52-2069; an old version of 2007 which already had support for pre-html5.

http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/a-call-for-video-on-the-w...

It supported the examples to 'test out' at the end of the page, but it crashed on openvideo.dailymotion.

Currently I'm not (easily) able to test FF3.5, will leave that excercise to some other reader.
chalbersma

Jun 16, 2009
9:27 PM EDT
Hmm maybe I'll try to upgrade to the latest opera to see if it's working. Thanks all.
DrDubious

Jun 17, 2009
11:14 AM EDT
If you install XiphQT ( http://www.xiph.org/quicktime in case lxer.com strips out my link)to tell QuickTime how to handle Ogg files and Vorbis/Theora codecs, and are running the new Safari 4, it will handle the same Ogg Vorbis/Theora files that work in Firefox 3.5 and the latest Opera test builds. (and the hypothetical builds of upcoming Google Chrome, and perhaps upcoming versions of Konqueror.)

It worked on the Mac I tested with, anyway.

As a bonus, this is a component for quicktime (not just safari), so XiphQT should playback and recording of Ogg Vorbis/Theora files outside of the browser, too (e.g. in iTunes and such).

DrDubious

Jun 17, 2009
11:19 AM EDT
Oh, and there are also "DirectShow" plugins for Ogg as well ( http://www.xiph.org/dshow/ ) to enable "Windows Media Player" and other DirectShow-using components to handle Ogg formats and codecs. This is probably moot for HTML5 though, since Microsoft will almost certainly continue to dig in their heels and stamp their little feet, refusing to support the HTML5 audio and video tags since it would undercut the "Silverlight" stuff they're hoping to get people addicted to. (I have no idea how ActiveX works - could an "ActiveX" plugin add HTML 5 support?)
Sander_Marechal

Jun 17, 2009
12:16 PM EDT
DrDubious. I'm not sure an ActieX plugin can implement all of HTML5, but it certainly can add support for the audio/video tags and Ogg playback support.
hkwint

Jun 17, 2009
12:44 PM EDT
Quoting:Hmm maybe I'll try to upgrade to the latest opera to see if it's working.


It doesn't, at least not for 10.00-4402. Tested that yesterday. But I'm not sure the version I mentioned is the latest (10.00-4440 seems to be, but maybe other beta/alpha's are made). Firefox 3.6 wouldn't compile yesterday as well (Gentoo problem, file-collission with xulrunner; will have a look again shortly).
chalbersma

Jun 17, 2009
1:45 PM EDT
Ya just got opera running for the same version on FreeBSD. HTML5 is not enabled.

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