Turn Off?
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| azerthoth Mar 09, 2009 11:40 AM EDT |
To be perfectly honest I haven't been following W7 very much. Falls to the sidelines in the " I don't have any real use for it " category. This however struck me as odd. How is being able to turn functionality off compliance with the EU demands of increasing competition? You have always had the option of either not using a function or installing an alternative. Maybe I'm being dense, I just don't see the point and click generation intentionally reducing functionality and then subsequently adding it through another means. Modularity in this case seems more a way to try and get Vista's version policy indemnified in the eyes of regulators. Now in theory you can turn off, or bolt on functionality as whims desire. It doesn't address that OEM's are still only going to ship 2 of the versions to their customers, and that what comes bolted on to those will be the defacto standard. Nor does it address that IE is still integrated into the OS at such a level that you can not safely remove it or stop using it completely. sorry for the rambling, still operating at less than 1 cup of coffee. |
| Sander_Marechal Mar 09, 2009 1:09 PM EDT |
Quoting:Nor does it address that IE is still integrated into the OS at such a level that you can not safely remove it or stop using it completely. Actually, that's exactly what it means. In W7 you can remove IE8, MediaPlayer and various other components completely according to Microsoft. How "completely" this is going to be is yet to be seen though. The leaked W7 that had this function indicates that IE8 isn't completely gone (Explorer still uses it) but it becomes completely unavailable directly and to other applications. |
| gus3 Mar 09, 2009 1:14 PM EDT |
Modularity in Windows? If someone is trying to make me spew my own coffee onto my monitor, they've failed miserably. From day one, Windows has been insufficiently modular even where a robust design dictated it should be. As proof of this pathetic "design" is a history of N blue-screens for every person on the planet. Seriously, is there a Windows user who has never seen the BSOD? But M$ has refused to learn the lessons of their own history, and true to Disraeli, they have repeated it over and over. The best way to turn off all the Windows modules is still reboot, fdisk, install Linux. Anything less is just removing part of the tumor. |
| bigg Mar 09, 2009 3:29 PM EDT |
> How is being able to turn functionality off compliance with the EU demands of increasing competition? You tend to hear goofy things when you talk to regulators. I had exactly the same thought go through my head. If you want competition, then you take the most obvious, bite-you-in-the-nose solution you'll ever see in a case like this. Microsoft has to offer versions with and without IE and the other stuff, and the versions have to be priced differently. The market price of a browser could be argued to be zero - in which case you have to ask why IE still exists. It's still an attempt at lock-in. |
| tuxchick Mar 09, 2009 3:39 PM EDT |
Sigh. This is beyond stupid and useless. It might even be a deliberate distraction. One pillar in the foundation of Microsoft's lock-in isn't the apps bundled with the OS. It's their abuse of the OEM channel, their ability to control hardware vendors and retail channels, their ability to control what shoppers see, whether it's via the retail or business channels. It takes a lot of collusion to prop up the Borg and keep everyone else locked out. The other pillar is their control of standards; their success in screwing up the standards process, and locking out non-MS standards and protocols. The EU scored a significant victory in forcing MS to release open documentation for their core standards and protocols. However, it comes with strings attached. Something like a $10,000 fee to see the documentation, and probably other encumbrances as well. Who gives a rip what is bundled with Windows-- it doesn't matter when they still own the parts that really matter. |
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