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Story: OpenOffice's UI will be getting a refurbTotal Replies: 7
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rijelkentaurus

Dec 05, 2008
6:31 PM EDT
Because everybody loves that *&#%%@ ribbon, don't they?

To heck with sarcasm tags!!
Scott_Ruecker

Dec 05, 2008
9:17 PM EDT
Ribbon? Am I having an eraserhead moment?

I haven't used MS Office in 6 years so I have no idea what your talking about. Sorry for the deer in headlights response..
tracyanne

Dec 05, 2008
9:43 PM EDT
Take the ribbon from your hair Shake it loose, let it fall Lay it soft against my skin Like the shadow on the wall
tuxchick

Dec 05, 2008
10:25 PM EDT
I was thinking of the horror story where the Baron takes a new wife. She is all lovely and perfect, but of course there is a catch. She wears a ribbon around her neck and when the Baron asks about it she says "never ever ever take it off, or you'll be sorry."

Of course he can't resist and sooner or later, depending on how long you spin the story out, he removes the ribbon and her head falls off and rolls away, and as it rolls it says "I told you you'd be sorry."

The MS Office ribbon is described here: http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2005/09/14/467126.aspx
tracyanne

Dec 05, 2008
11:33 PM EDT
In spite of Microsoft's glowing marketing assessment of the Ribbon, it's a right royal pain in the nether regions.
jdixon

Dec 06, 2008
12:11 AM EDT
> Take the ribbon from your hair...

I've always preferred the Sammi Smith version, from the woman's perspective.
bigg

Dec 06, 2008
10:13 AM EDT
I've never seen the ribbon, but I have heard from a few people that really love it. I know of more who've tried it for a few days and then 'downgraded' to an earlier version. Personally, it would have to be a pretty darn good ribbon to get me to use any word processor.
hkwint

Dec 06, 2008
12:07 PM EDT
Well, I have a good idea. If it is too hard to find certain commands, just like in Windows Explorer (maybe KDE or Gnome? Don't use it), just introduce a command line. Then you never have to search in GUI's again (the sad ones like me who ever had to recursively change attributes in Windows will understand).

Allow the user to alias the commands, and you are able to work a lot faster. Off course not everyone will be liking such an 'add on', so you should not force people to use it, just make it available as an extra. It would be a nice feature for the ones having to work with Office everyday, and almost every hour too, which includes me.

Here's the problem with the MS Ribbon: I just watched a Ribbon-video on Youtube, and Microsofts solution is to put everything which is often used more to the left and 'advanced' features to the right. But I use those 'advanced' things a lot, though I don't care about margins, something Microsoft thinks I use a lot. Also, instead of four levels of menus, there are the 'tabs' now; but how do I know under which tab to look? If one made commands of those features, no one would be more hidden or have a more prominent place then another. An interesting note: The MS Ribbons took the same approach as the Mezzo-desktop for SymphonyOS, a Linux distro (nested menus are evil).

Better, make links to those commands in the help file; so if I search for 'justify center' in the help, I can click the command and it happens. To the ones using commands, this might save 'training' for newer versions. For example, some KDE3 users are pissed if their distro has KDE4 by default because some of their stuff went to some other place, but the commands for the command-line remained the same. Someone using 'bash' for file-management never has to search how the GUI's changed; and if some commands changed, you can usually alias them.

It probably sounds antique, but vi(m) shows it works for the ones wanting to invest some time, to save a lot of time later on.

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