Nice, but what is the relevance?
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| herzeleid Feb 17, 2008 10:12 PM EDT |
Hmm, I'm trying to figure out why this curious little writeup on how to install some software on a windoze pee cee was posted here... |
| Scott_Ruecker Feb 17, 2008 10:35 PM EDT |
It is about OpenLDAP correct? |
| herzeleid Feb 18, 2008 7:35 AM EDT |
> It is about OpenLDAP correct? Yes it seemed to be something about installing openldap on windoze. |
| Sander_Marechal Feb 18, 2008 7:48 AM EDT |
I didn't see much stuff that was Windows-specific in that article. All of the openLDAP configuration is OS agnostic. |
| herzeleid Feb 18, 2008 8:42 AM EDT |
> I didn't see much stuff that was Windows-specific in that article. All of the openLDAP configuration is OS agnostic. hmm, just from a quick glance at the article: Quoting:Download and install OpenLDAP for Windows operating system. Specify the following directives in the C:\Program Files\OpenLDAP\slapd.conf file.So, maybe something useful in there somewhere, hard to say - but I kept getting poked in the eye with all the arcane details of windoze paths and install instructions etc, and my eyes glazed over ;) |
| jdixon Feb 18, 2008 8:46 AM EDT |
> but I kept getting poked in the eye with all the arcane details of windoze paths and install instructions etc, and my eyes glazed over ;) One of the nice things about a format like LXer's is that you don't need to read everything. I frequently skip large chunks of their stories, especially if they include the phrase "Matt Hartley". :) |
| NoDough Feb 18, 2008 9:01 AM EDT |
Unless I'm mistaken, OpenLDAP is FOSS. Is it not? This site is about FOSS. Is it not? |
| tuxtom Feb 18, 2008 9:13 AM EDT |
Theoretically you are correct, NoDough. But in practice it frequently becomes more of an anti-Microsoft bashing platform than a pro-Linux/FOSS resource. |
| NoDough Feb 18, 2008 9:19 AM EDT |
tuxtom>> But in practice it frequently becomes more of an anti-Microsoft bashing platform than a pro-Linux/FOSS resource. *Sigh* Yes. That's true. |
| herzeleid Feb 18, 2008 9:28 AM EDT |
> Theoretically you are correct, NoDough. But in practice it frequently becomes more of an anti-Microsoft bashing platform than a pro-Linux/FOSS resource. Nah, everybody gets bashed here, linux vendors, other commercial concerns, and yes even microsoft. I'd love it if microsoft were never even mentioned, as they have no particular relevance to anything I do (I work in IT), and I come to this site to see what's going on with linux. |
| tuxtom Feb 18, 2008 9:58 AM EDT |
herzeleid: Your minimization of "even microsoft" is kinda funny. It is often cloaked as "Redmond" or "MS" and is probably the most frequently used word on this site besides "the". A cursory search of the archives would make this readily apparent. > I'd love it if microsoft were never even mentioned, as they have no particular relevance to anything I do (I work in IT), and I come to this site to see what's going on with linux. I'm in the same boat, and it is a great place to see what's going on with Linux. Perhaps I can learn from you and just train my mind to ignore the "M" word and all arguments surrounding it. 8^) |
| herzeleid Feb 18, 2008 10:15 AM EDT |
> Perhaps I can learn from you and just train my mind to ignore the "M" word and all arguments surrounding it. 8^) LOL, where did you get the idea that I ignore it? I tend to comment readily when I see microsoft mentioned - but I'd be happy to not see it mentioned in the first place. |
| Scott_Ruecker Feb 18, 2008 10:16 AM EDT |
Its funny, the story is about OpenLDAP on Windows and we still end up bashing Microsoft and everyone else for that matter.. funny. |
| herzeleid Feb 18, 2008 10:32 AM EDT |
> Its funny, the story is about OpenLDAP on Windows and we still end up bashing Microsoft and everyone else for that matter.. I must have missed the microsoft bashing - could you point it out? I see the phrase "microsoft bashing" mentioned repeatedly, but could find no attacks on microsoft per se. I questioned the relevance of an article on windoze software installation on a linux site, but surely that could not by any strecth of the imagination be construed as microsoft bashing, any more than my asking why there's an orangutan in my kitchen would be a case of orangutan-bashing. |
| Scott_Ruecker Feb 18, 2008 10:39 AM EDT |
herzeleid: Your right, it hasn't happened yet..but its coming.. LOL!! |
| tuxtom Feb 18, 2008 10:44 AM EDT |
Sometimes it's very subtle, but it's always there. Read: windoze. |
| Scott_Ruecker Feb 18, 2008 10:47 AM EDT |
Nice catch tuxtom, I missed that. To used to seeing it I guess. |
| herzeleid Feb 18, 2008 11:09 AM EDT |
Ah, so when you see the nickname "windoze" used, you cry "microsoft bashing"? hmm, seems a bit hypersensitive. Now, if I called it "microsucks winbloze" or something along those lines, that could be considered a case of implicit microsoft bashing, just as I would consider it linux bashing if a freebsd user referred to linux as "linsux" OTOH when I hear linux called "leenooks" I don't consider it linux bashing. |
| Scott_Ruecker Feb 18, 2008 11:14 AM EDT |
Your the one that said there was no bashing going on, yet you were wrong..it was. That's not hypersensitive, its accurate. You can't get upset that someone states there is bashing going on, say there isn't, when there obviously is.. |
| herzeleid Feb 18, 2008 11:15 AM EDT |
> That's not hypersensitive, its accurate. You can't get upset that someone states there is bashing going on, say there isn't, when there obviously is.. LOL, who got upset? I'm just trying to understand where you think there was microsoft bashing going on. Can you explain where the microsoft bashing is? I though bashing meant insults, accusations, placing of blame etc. |
| tuxtom Feb 18, 2008 11:21 AM EDT |
I'm not upset or hypersensitive, it was merely a sociological observation...and a weak attempt at humor. Don't you LINUTS get it? 8^) |
| herzeleid Feb 18, 2008 11:23 AM EDT |
> Don't you LINUTS get it? Hey, thems fightin words! |
| NoDough Feb 18, 2008 11:42 AM EDT |
herzeleid>> when you see the nickname "windoze" used, you cry "microsoft bashing"? herzeleid>> I would consider it linux bashing if a freebsd user referred to linux as "linsux" How can you call one bashing, and not the other? |
| herzeleid Feb 18, 2008 12:51 PM EDT |
Quoting: herzeleid>> when you see the nickname "windoze" used, you cry "microsoft bashing"?You edited my message to make it less clear. Let me restore the parts you deleted: Quoting: I would consider it linux bashing if a freebsd user referred to linux as "linsux" OTOH when I hear linux called "leenooks" I don't consider it linux bashing.so, an alternate spelling doesn't equate to bashing - and: Quoting:Now, if I called it "microsucks winbloze" ... that could be considered ... microsoft bashing,So, I said that a pejorative term for windows *does* constitute bashing - makes a lot more sense when I put back the parts you removed, doesn't it? In short,, "windoze" isn't bashing, just as "leenoks" isn't bashing; OTOH "microsux winbloze" is bashing, just as "linsux" is bashing To recap, in the one case, you have a alternative phonetic spelling, on the other hand you have an insult ("sux" in case you missed it). See the difference? |
| NoDough Feb 18, 2008 1:04 PM EDT |
herzeleid>> So, I said that a pejorative term for windows *does* constitute bashing - makes a lot more sense when I put back the parts you removed, doesn't it? Well, I guess if you consider 'windoze' just a nick and don't take into account the 'doze' portion. http://tfd.com/doze I've always taken the word to be a wise crack aimed squarely at Microsoft. Ever since I read it the first time back in the mid-late 90s. |
| tuxtom Feb 18, 2008 1:17 PM EDT |
I think it's time we stopped talking about Micro$oft and started talking about eunuchs. |
| herzeleid Feb 18, 2008 1:41 PM EDT |
> Well, I guess if you consider 'windoze' just a nick and don't take into account the 'doze' portion. [HYPERLINK@tfd.com] I've always taken the word to be a wise crack aimed squarely at Microsoft. Ever since I read it the first time back in the mid-late 90s. OK, 'doze' meaning 'to sleep'. huh. still don't see the insult there. now 'winbloze' - clearly an insult. But I digress. I think it's gotta be 5:00 somewhere, it's margarita time. |
| jdixon Feb 18, 2008 2:34 PM EDT |
> Read: windoze. Well, Windows does not equal Microsoft, so technically that's Windows bashing and not Microsoft bashing. Calling it M$ Windoze would be Microsoft bashing. Whether it's deserved bashing would be another subject entirely. |
| tuxtom Feb 18, 2008 2:57 PM EDT |
jdixon: Grasping for loopholes? Why not admit the truth? Isn't M$ product bashing the same as M$ bashing, for all practical purposes? You, I and everyone else here knows we're not talking about X Windows...many of us are Ex-Windoze. We see right through it. BTW: ih8microsoft.com, ih8windows.com and ih8windoze.com are all available if anyone is interested. Those would make for some fun forums...age verification required! |
| herzeleid Feb 18, 2008 3:06 PM EDT |
> BTW: ih8microsoft.com, ih8windows.com and ih8windoze.com are all available if anyone is interested. Those would make for some fun forums...age verification required! Haha I've already bought my share of novelty domains. I don't hate windoze, I am really indifferent to it. I only wish that the folks at microsoft would get out of my face, and stop trying to make themselves part of my life. Dear microsoft, I've already got an OS that I'm happy with, OK? No, I'm not interested in dating. No, I'm not interested in going out for coffee. No, I'm not interested in being friends. You go your way and I'll go mine, and let's just leave it at that, OK? |
| jdixon Feb 18, 2008 3:14 PM EDT |
> Isn't M$ product bashing the same as M$ bashing, for all practical purposes? No. You can bash one product from a company without bashing the entire company. Lots of companies have produced one or more bad products over the years. As a perfect example, I could bash Sony's root kit software on their CD's without affecting my opinion of the laptops or televisions at all (or of the music on the CD's for that matter). |
| herzeleid Feb 18, 2008 3:19 PM EDT |
> Isn't M$ product bashing the same as M$ bashing, for all practical purposes? Not at all. While I have no use for windoze, I've actually bought microsoft mice for my own use, more than once. Yep, I recommend microsoft mice! How do you like them apples? |
| tuxtom Feb 18, 2008 3:31 PM EDT |
@herzeleid - Read my post near the bottom of this to see what I think about that: http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/26801/ |
| gus3 Feb 18, 2008 5:16 PM EDT |
And I hate typing with anything but a Microsoft Natural Keyboard. Even the Logitech split keboards just don't fit my hands right. |
| tuxtom Feb 18, 2008 6:36 PM EDT |
With input devices I think everyone just has to experiment and find what works best for them. Pay no attention to the logo. Let your body decide, not your mind. |
| gus3 Feb 18, 2008 7:28 PM EDT |
Quoting:Let your body decide, not your mind.When my mind saw my hands go from 55wpm to 80+wpm, the decision became unanimous. |
| tuxtom Feb 18, 2008 7:45 PM EDT |
I don't type anywhere near those numbers, but my speed and accuracy did increase. The best part is I'm able to spend my hours on the keyboard without soreness or cramping, which is more important than speed for me. Man, we are so off topic it is unbelievable. |
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