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| Abe Jan 25, 2008 11:16 AM EDT |
Quoting:Silverlight is not standardised and it is not recommended by the W3C, either. It’s a case against W3C in the sense that it renders the W3C’s work obsolete.Very good worrisome point. MS never gives up on locking users of its platform. If it wasn't for the availability of Adobe flash/Flex, it would be really hard for developers not to use Silverlight. On the other hand, MS tried, failed and will always fail to render W3C work obsolete. There is a lot to W3C than just razzle-dazzle stuff. MS made many Html extensions and for a while dominated the browser field. But with FF and others, MS is realizing that it will lose the long term war and trying to get back and comply with the W3C standards. Quoting:The only thing more worrying than Silverlight is people’s lack of awareness of Silverlight’s danger to the Web, to GNU/Linux users, to search engines that compete against Microsoft, to digital preservation and many other things.Another good point and shouldn't underestimate the influence MS has on some outfits. But again, as long as Flash/Flex is available and competitive on multiple platforms, MS will have a very hard time to dominate this market again. |
| dinotrac Jan 25, 2008 11:23 AM EDT |
I think Roy has been chewing at the raw meat too long. In this niche, Adobe is Microsoft. Far from being a danger, Silverlight is an alternative to Yet Another Closed Pseudo-standard. Sure, Microsoft could screw around with it, but where is their incentive? They aren't the big fish in this pond and screwing around with it will only send serious developers elsewhere. Silverlight poses no danger to anything. Whether Silverlight matters is a better question than who's behind it. |
| herzeleid Jan 25, 2008 11:53 AM EDT |
> In this niche, Adobe is Microsoft. Actually adobe is in some ways the anti-microsoft, since they provide a cross-platform program. If adobe really were microsoft, then: 1. flash would only run on "adobeOS" 2. website managers would be bribed to use flash exclusively 3. journalists would be paid to write articles about the dangers of flash alternatives |
| dinotrac Jan 25, 2008 12:00 PM EDT |
herzeleid - Sorry, your logic is wrong. 1. First, Microsoft has long been a cross -platform company. They were one of the original suppliers of softwrare for the Mac. The Mac was, in fact, their tuneup for Windows and their original Windows apps started out as Mac apps. More improtant, however, is the fact that Adobe doesn't sell an OS. 2. No need for bribes -- flash has been very popular all by its little lonesome. Makes no sense to pay bribes when you can get results for free. 3. Not to say anything, but this thread is commenting on an article about the dangers of flash alternatives. I doubt that Roy was paid to write it, but I don't know that he wasn't. Wouldn't make sense, though -- why pay for what you can get for free? |
| Abe Jan 25, 2008 12:48 PM EDT |
Quoting:They were one of the original suppliers of softwrare for the Mac.Were is far long gone and are is what counts. Now, I know you better Dino, but do you really believe that MS is cross platform currently? Sure you don't. |
| vainrveenr Jan 25, 2008 12:56 PM EDT |
Quoting:If adobe really were microsoft, then:Yep. Would also posit a couple of other results of an MS-like Adobe.... 4. flash would be increasingly targeted by more and more application-side hack exploits 5. adobe would enforce more and more complex EULA's, mandate Vista-like update conundrums, enact possible DRM measures, |
| dinotrac Jan 25, 2008 2:43 PM EDT |
Abe - If you can base an argument over a fictional Adobe OS, I can call very real Mac software evidence of cross-platform support. Sure, it's a vestige of the long strange journey to screw the world and own the desktop, but Microsoft has sold a lot of Mac software. |
| Sander_Marechal Jan 26, 2008 4:00 AM EDT |
Quoting:Were is far long gone and are is what counts. MS *still* produces Mac software. They just release MS-Office 2008 for Mac. Sure, they borked is as usual (they removed VBA support) but they do make and sell it. |
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