Er, no thanks.
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salparadise Sep 05, 2007 9:59 PM EDT |
Don't need Microsoft to enable multimedia in my browser thanks - it already works. I was under the impression it mostly worked on Windows and I know it works on OSX - so - what are Microsoft up to? |
jacog Sep 05, 2007 11:31 PM EDT |
They're supporting Novell, who in turn are supporting the development of the Mono implementation of SL called Moonlight. It's all in the article. As for what Microsoft is up to... that's an easy one. Step 1: Make the world adopt Silverlight and get comfortable with it. They will support it on as many popular platforms as they can. They may even hard-boil the use of Silverlight into Visual Studio so that there will be hudreds of sites that use it for even the most mundane tasks. Step 2: Pull the plug. As soon as the tech has become fully integrated into the web as we know it, and a lot of sites rely on it, they will pull the plug on any platforms other than their own. This will be done through some sort of yet-undetermined legal charade. |
dinotrac Sep 06, 2007 2:49 AM EDT |
>I was under the impression it mostly worked on Windows and I know it works on OSX - so - what are Microsoft up to? Flash is taking their world away. They want it back. |
salparadise Sep 06, 2007 5:56 AM EDT |
It must be exhausting to be so damned competitive. |
dinotrac Sep 06, 2007 5:58 AM EDT |
>It must be exhausting to be so damned competitive. In a funny way, I'm tempted to root for Microsoft a bit. Adobe seems to be working towards a web media monopoly of its own. Better to have several players -- that we can make use of. |
jacog Sep 06, 2007 6:07 AM EDT |
Well, if my abovementioned theory is correct, then the main goal is not to create a web media monopoly, but to create a cross-platform dependance on a MIcrosoft technology so that it can eventually act as a lock-in. Adobe can't do that since they don't have an operatnig system to lock you in to. I think a better approach to all this is to formalise next gen web rich media into a w3c standard of some sort, and then support that. |
jdixon Sep 06, 2007 6:10 AM EDT |
> I think a better approach to all this is to formalise next gen web rich media into a w3c standard of some sort, and then support that. Are you ready for Microsoft's Open Rich Media Content format (ORMC) submission as an ISO standard? :) |
NoDough Sep 06, 2007 6:15 AM EDT |
Quoting:It must be exhausting to be so damned competitive.Actually, if you're doing something you believe in, it's quite exhilarating. |
tuxchick Sep 06, 2007 6:40 AM EDT |
Dino has it- let the loathesome Microsoft take on the loathesome Adobe! It's the EwEwLePew Deathmatch! |
dinotrac Sep 06, 2007 7:04 AM EDT |
>Dino has it- let the loathesome Microsoft take on the loathesome Adobe! It's the EwEwLePew Deathmatch! Yup. Mind you, I would much rather see free and open standards take over the web, but a few strong competitors might actually hasten that day. Flash gained a lot of steam by being one standard that plays well just about everywhere. Well-- I say one standard, but that's not exactly write. All of the nifty swf stuff and all is flash, but those flv files actually wrap around several "standards". Still -- It will be very hard for anybody to make much headway these days unless they claim to support the world. That's got to be progress. |
hkwint Sep 06, 2007 9:24 AM EDT |
Well, if you'd ask me, there's something else going on: Moonlight is just a way to shove the .NET into Linux. The .NET (and Silverlight to a lesser degree) platform is more important to Microsoft than Silverlight not working on Linux (see the Microsoft secret pdf "Evangelism is war", which became public after the Ohio-anti-trust case, where this is stated by a Softie). In a way, this is a continuation of Miguel de Icaza and his Mono project, to get .NET into Linux with the help of Novell. And guess what... Novell is the first corporation to make Moonligt available for Linux in SUse, and after that, it will be Novell redistributing the Moonlight-packages to other Linux-distributions. Personally, I wouldn't surprised if they also tried to make .NET (/mono) a part of OpenOffice too. |
Abe Sep 06, 2007 10:08 AM EDT |
Quoting:..... And guess what... Novell is the first corporation to make Moonligt available for Linux in SUse, and after that, it will be Novell redistributing the Moonlight-packages to other Linux-distributions. Personally, I wouldn't surprised if they also tried to make .NET (/mono) a part of OpenOffice too. Hkwint, I am really surprised you haven't been labeled as "MS Hater" yet. Be careful what you say, guy. The Mono people will come to get you! |
dinotrac Sep 06, 2007 10:09 AM EDT |
>And guess what... Novell is the first corporation to make Moonligt available for Linux Well, duh. Let's see... Novell is the corporate sponsor for the Mono project. Novell is a major Linux distribution. Novell has a technology agreement with Microsoft. What else would you expect? |
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