SJVN haters - read this.
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dinotrac Jan 05, 2007 6:45 AM EDT |
This is why SJVN is interesting to me. This is a good and thoughtful piece by a Linux person who wants to see a lot more Linux in the world. |
jdixon Jan 05, 2007 8:05 AM EDT |
Agreed. It's a good article, and an example of why SJVN is a good journalist. |
tuxchick Jan 05, 2007 8:51 AM EDT |
Haters? Where? Disagreeing with some of the things he says is not hatred. |
Abe Jan 05, 2007 8:54 AM EDT |
Quoting:This is why SJVN is interesting to me. Quoting:It's a good articleYes it is a good article and nothing new, but the title could have been much better. Instead of "Windows wins and Linux Loses", he could have said " How Linux can win over Windows" or "How Linux can surpass Windows. |
dinotrac Jan 05, 2007 9:15 AM EDT |
tc - Disagreers may also enjoy the article. |
dinotrac Jan 05, 2007 9:16 AM EDT |
Abe - I agree. Don't know if he make his own headlines or not, but he might enjoy being a little provocative. The name of the game is to get hits, after all. |
tuxchick Jan 05, 2007 9:56 AM EDT |
It is a pretty sound article. The common wisdom is something like "we just need to keep making Linux cooler and more better, and people will adopt it on the basis of its superior merits." If mere technical superiority were all it took, windows never would have been more than a dusty historical footnote. |
jimf Jan 05, 2007 10:01 AM EDT |
SJVN seems to be getting a lot more careful about what and how he writes. Why do I get the feeling that he may be monitoring LXer ;-)... |
Abe Jan 05, 2007 10:40 AM EDT |
Quoting:but he might enjoy being a little provocativeDoes he really need to? As a Linux advocate (or claim to be), he should have know we will be more appreciated if he doesn't resort to such tactics. Quoting:windows never would have been more than a dusty historical footnote.With Linux advancing they way it has been, I say there is still time for that. Quoting:SJVN seems to be getting a lot more careful about what and how he writes. Why do I get the feeling that he may be monitoring LXer ;-)...I have the feeling that he is not the only one. LXer has a whole bunch of hyperactive poster bees (in a good way) who never let any article get by without making their views know. |
jimf Jan 05, 2007 11:02 AM EDT |
> I have the feeling that he is not the only one. LXer has a whole bunch of hyperactive poster bees (in a good way) who never let any article get by without making their views know. Heh... Maybe we aren't talking to hear the sound of out own voices after all :D |
dinotrac Jan 05, 2007 11:37 AM EDT |
>Heh... Maybe we aren't talking to hear the sound of out own voices after all :D Speak for yourself! I have a very large head to maintain. |
azerthoth Jan 05, 2007 2:41 PM EDT |
>>Heh... Maybe we aren't talking to hear the sound of out own voices after all :D >Speak for yourself! I have a very large head to maintain. If I could only get the voices in my head to shut up. They keep whispering evil things to me. "Bill Gates is your friend" "Microsoft is the OS of choice" hmm, How do I check to see if my X server is corrupted and is feeding me subliminal messages? |
jimf Jan 05, 2007 2:52 PM EDT |
> "Bill Gates is your friend" "Microsoft is the OS of choice" Check for DRM devices tucked into your speakers ;-)... |
devnet Jan 05, 2007 3:22 PM EDT |
BTW, did I happen to mention ubuntu sux? j/k btw...but I had to make sure I didn't disappoint TC :) |
tuxchick Jan 05, 2007 3:23 PM EDT |
dangit, I'm missing the conversation because there is a giant Zardoz-type in the head in the way. Move, sheesh! |
tuxchick Jan 05, 2007 3:30 PM EDT |
aww devnet, you almost made me cry! thank you! |
jezuch Jan 05, 2007 3:52 PM EDT |
Quoting:If I could only get the voices in my head to shut up. Hey, I like *my* voices in my head! They're singing "Perpetual Black Second" by Meshuggah right now - what's not to like? ;) Quoting:BTW, did I happen to mention ubuntu sux? Login into an Ubuntu box and type: $ man sux Observe. |
dek Jan 05, 2007 4:21 PM EDT |
I cannot leave the "Ubuntu sux" folks disappointed with no retort so here it is. Ubuntu ruleZ! BTW. I use it and like it but don't think it's greatest thing since sliced bread. Don K. |
dcparris Jan 05, 2007 5:00 PM EDT |
I agree dek. Sliced bread is hard to beat. Especially if it's hot AND there's butter and your favorite spread. ;-) BTW, I just discovered that SJVN is a not-too-distant neighbor. I've already suggested we get together some time. He's game, so well see how it turns out. |
dek Jan 05, 2007 6:17 PM EDT |
@dcp I like it! Rubbing elbows with the "rich and famous" is good publicity for LXer.... ;-) |
jdixon Jan 05, 2007 6:49 PM EDT |
DC: Doesn't Nick Petreley live somewhere in NC? He may be close enough to arrange a get together also. |
dcparris Jan 05, 2007 7:04 PM EDT |
jdixon: I don't know. If so, you're absolutely right. I should try to hook up with him, too. :-) dek: :-) |
dcparris Jan 05, 2007 7:26 PM EDT |
Oh yeah, having the "rich and famous" come down and speak to CharLUG would be pretty cool, too. |
dinotrac Jan 05, 2007 7:36 PM EDT |
dc - I've never met SJVN, but Nick's a pretty decent fellow. It can only do you well to hook up with those guys and bend an elbow or two. But...One very strong suggestion...A warning perhaps... To get the tone right, you must say it in the same manner as Pete warned Delmar and Ulysses from the back of the theater --- you remember the exchange? Delmar stage-whispers to Pete, "We thought you was a toad!" Pete stage whispers back, "Do not seek the treasure." With that scene firmly in mind, please take this advice/warning in the spirit it is offered: Do not take the pig! |
jimf Jan 05, 2007 7:44 PM EDT |
> Do not take the pig! Yeah, I'll second that thought. I know the pig will be disappointed, but just tell him that pigs may have knuckles, but no elbows to rub :D |
Scott_Ruecker Jan 05, 2007 8:24 PM EDT |
Quoting:SJVN seems to be getting a lot more careful about what and how he writes. Why do I get the feeling that he may be monitoring LXer ;-)... As well he should.. ;-) |
devnet Jan 06, 2007 8:22 AM EDT |
DC.. I live close to you as well...I used to live in Goldsboro, NC just south of Raleigh when I was in the Air Force...but now that I'm out, I've moved to Richmond, VA. However, I do have relatives in Snow Hill, NC which means I visit quite a bit. I'll see what I can do to get around there if you guys plan another get together. BTW, Wilburs BBQ in Goldsboro is world famous...3 presidents of the past 4 have been there. It's totally worth it :D |
dcparris Jan 06, 2007 8:52 AM EDT |
Sorry Dino, I'm missing the reference. :-( |
dinotrac Jan 06, 2007 11:58 AM EDT |
>Sorry Dino, I'm missing the reference. :-( O Brother, Where art thou? Rev - If you haven't seen the film, then shame on you. It is a resetting (more or less) of the Odyssey into depression-era Mississippi. Any movie with the lines "We thought you was a toad" and "I am the paterfamilias" already has something going for it, but throw in George Clooney, Holly Hunter, John Goodman, and Charles Durning and, ... wait! That's not all! If you buy now, you get sound-track of early twentieth-century and traditional music that will knock your socks off - so good it won the Album of the Year Grammy. Seriously, this is one a good southern reverend marine geek needs to see. |
dcparris Jan 06, 2007 6:01 PM EDT |
Aha! Yes, I just needed my memory registers flushed. ;-) I saw that movie some time ago, and have forgotten a good bit of it. That was hilarious! |
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