bass-ackwards, methinks
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phubert Apr 27, 2005 9:38 AM EDT |
Running Windows on Linux has always made sense, running Linux on Windows is pretty pointless... perhaps Microsoft already knows that. |
PaulFerris Apr 27, 2005 11:39 AM EDT |
Au Contrare dear Paul, what else are you going to scan for viruses for? :-) |
rsevenic Apr 27, 2005 12:30 PM EDT |
Virtualization is very likely a very important technology whose time is coming, but this announcement is not necessarily a win for Linux. Salient questions include:
* will Linux require a MS-provided patch to run on the MS virtualized machine?
* is that patch proprietary (does it require a license)? And how about GPL'd virtualization solutions (e.g. Xen Virtualization)? This requires an OS patch - at least until appropriate virtualization hooks are integrated into the underlying chip architecture (as is underway). Can we expect non-MS virtualization technologies to receive cooperation from MS in getting MS products to run on those solutions? To me this looks like business as usual with MS attempting to preempt/monopolize a technology. The fact that Linux will be supported by their virtualization layer makes good business sense. I'm not yet persuaded that this is a win for Linux, but I may be missing something. |
phubert Apr 27, 2005 12:38 PM EDT |
I would expect this announcement serves MS in two ways: 1) they can say they are playing fair and open 2) they can use Linux-on-Windows in any effort to encourage migration OFF Linux and onto Windows How it serves anyone in the Linux/OSS camp, I could not imagine...but others likely have better imaginations. |
r_a_trip Apr 28, 2005 9:25 AM EDT |
2) they can use Linux-on-Windows in any effort to encourage migration OFF Linux and onto Windows Highly unlikely. If you're already on GNU/Linux, you're not going to migrate to Windows. Even if a person only knew GNU/Linux and was tempted to see what Windows was all about, (s)he'd be screaming back to the fav GNU/Linux Distro. Windows is a pain to endure, not a useful OS. It is bare, insecure, malware-prone and very costly. Honestly, it is no match for all other OS'es. It's dominance is secured by pre-loading deals and computer illiterates who are way too uninterested and lethargic to resist the damage it does... |
phubert Apr 28, 2005 11:43 AM EDT |
"If you're already on GNU/Linux, you're not going to migrate to Windows." Actually, this DOES occur. I haven't saved the references I've seen, but businesses have backed-off Linux to standardize on (or return to) Microsoft. I'm sure the migration the other way considerably outnumbers such situations, but, again, such cases do exist. |
tuxchick Apr 28, 2005 1:22 PM EDT |
I keep a winduhs box around for playing games (gotta have my occasional gorefest), and for printing, scanning, and managing archives from my digital camera. Yes, I cheerlead Samba/CUPS and SANE all to heck, but microshaft still has hardware vendors by the shorts, so we still get crappy-ass drivers, especially for USB hotplug devices and color printers. And I'm completely baffled by the 2.6 kernel- is there a release yet that does CD writing, and USB hotplug, and good power management all in the same kernel? Aside from all that, Linux on winduhs is one of the funnier, lamer ideas I've heard in a long time. Like putting a Saab body on a Yugo chassis. Those boyz at the Evil Empire do have the occasional flash of humor. |
PaulFerris Apr 28, 2005 5:40 PM EDT |
tuxchick: For a similar experience, there's cygwin with X windows (I prefer XfCE on Cygwin for DLL hell, XfCE on Linux when I want to rock). Oddly enough, the Cygwin on XP is livable. A bit on the sluggish side, though. I have an old junker desktop IBM at work that I run for heavy lifting -- it's not really a total junker -- it was just "repurposed" from the inevitable Windows upgrade cycle. It's a 700 mhz P3. The 700 mhz desktop with half a gig of ram slaughters the XP/Cygwin combo for everything that I do. Mostly, thought, it's opening multiple terminal windows, and yes, the speed is a factor when you're opening half a dozen or so at a time... |
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